~ Interesting!
STUDBOOKS
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~ Interesting!
If you wanted to add your radiata to the studbook, you would try to find out as much info on previous ownership as you could, then contact the studbook keeper with the info. Your tortoises would be assigned a number and you go from there.
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~ Actually many of ours are recorded. After a long conversation a few days ago with another serious tortoise keeper simply made me start to wonder about this studbook that seems so important. What a perfect example of the many values of TFO and it's many diverse and knowledgeable members!
Yes, I love that now my tortoise info is centrally located!!!!! Once in a great while I'll still google something, but I get most of my info right here. We have some VERY knowledgeable folks here.
~ That would be time consuming for us, and truly I feel that is privileged information. Many folks would not want there name, address, etc. documented!
Well, naturally, you have to ask them if they want their new baby in the stud book. I would never do it without consent.
~ I so agree, I try and get every aldabra customer, owner, etc. that i have any contact with to join TFO, unfortunately many do not and some join but never participate and simply read.
~ I actually like the whole studbook concept, especially for rare, etc. species!
~ Does a studbook exist for the Galapagos tortoises, I know of six sources that are that are producing them now in the USA!
I don't know. I know the San Diego Zoo is doing mitocondrial (SP??) DNA testing to determine where theirs come from. I'd like to get my two Aldabs into a studbook, but I don't know if there even is one.
~ I have never heard of one!
There might be an article in here about a Galapagos stud book and Rick Hudson:
http://www.turtlesurvival.org/storage/documents/magazines/2011_Magazine.pdf
I know Europe has Galop studbooks.
http://www.turtlesurvival.org/storage/documents/magazines/2011_Magazine.pdf
I know Europe has Galop studbooks.
Alaskamike
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Interesting concept - stud books.
When I got my Aldabra from you Greg , I started a book for her. Mainly to document her life and to pass on to next person who cares for her after me ( & maybe a generation after that !). Not a stud book , but a history book.
Wouldn't it have been interesting if you had detailed information on Cowboy like that - how he was imported , who did it , where they found him , each person in his life till he got to you. That would be fascinating stuff.
When I got my Aldabra from you Greg , I started a book for her. Mainly to document her life and to pass on to next person who cares for her after me ( & maybe a generation after that !). Not a stud book , but a history book.
Wouldn't it have been interesting if you had detailed information on Cowboy like that - how he was imported , who did it , where they found him , each person in his life till he got to you. That would be fascinating stuff.
Stud books are great in my opinion they tell who is related to who to make the most out of a dieing species
Stud books were started in the zoo community to track the genetics of a given species. (and individuals) the stud books kind of go hand in hand with the SSP Species Survival Plan. The SSP usually both tracks and projects a given species to plan for maximum genetic diversity. They used to try and plan for 100 years ahead. Stud book "teams" meet and breeding suggestions are made to the zoo's that hold the animals. This creates a surprising amount of animal shipment around the country. Another side effect is many breeding individuals are stopped from further breeding due to being over represented.
Yes. A couple years ago I was contacted by the studbook folks wanting to know if I would agree to shipping my female off to another Manouria keeper as our two tortoises were genetically different enough to breed. This other keeper had never had any breeding experience, and I had had several nestings and successful hatchings, so I wrote back that I would be happy to host the other person's male here with my female, but not the other way around. I never heard back from them.
Coming from the zoo side of the program I was bothered by the "zoo" attitude that animals should be kept out of the private sector. Crazy since most breeding and husbandry advances came from regular individuals.
~ That would be awesome, I have some of his history not nothing past a few decades!
~ Spot on!
