I'm afraid I'm pretty old fashioned. I don't like tattoos. I don't find anything about them to be attractive or even artistic.
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attractiveness is one thing... but if you can't see the artistic element of tattoos, you're blinded by your own biases.
My buddy who is a tattoo artist also does amazing paintings. A lot of ARTISTS tattoo to make money, the world isn't what it used to be in terms of becoming an visual artist as a career. Heck, the world isn't what it used to be in terms of any education and career path.
Also tattoos aren't just for outlaws and criminals anymore, they've become very trendy and socially acceptable. (In the <50 crowd)
My buddy who is a tattoo artist also does amazing paintings. A lot of ARTISTS tattoo to make money, the world isn't what it used to be in terms of becoming an visual artist as a career. Heck, the world isn't what it used to be in terms of any education and career path.
Also tattoos aren't just for outlaws and criminals anymore, they've become very trendy and socially acceptable. (In the <50 crowd)
As an artist as well as a tattoo artist I can see the artistic side, it's very complexed and hard to do, takes a lot more commitment than just picking a brush up. What you apply to painting is completely turned on its head and none of it applies to tattooing, it's a totally new skill to master...
BUT
I can totally see how others don't see it. Each to their own, if we all thought and believed the same, the world would be a pretty dull place
BUT
I can totally see how others don't see it. Each to their own, if we all thought and believed the same, the world would be a pretty dull place
That picture is not of me I'm a lot younger than that! (17)
I'm a lot younger than that! (17)
My mom likes them ALMOST 18! First one was at 16
ALMOST 18! First one was at 16
Here it's 16 with parent 18 alone.
Biff Malibu said:*This really isn't too far off from the truth with the exception of the forearms, all that means is you are committed to wear long sleeve shirts at work.
I like this chart.
Biff Malibu said:
I love the chart, Biff. Gotta call you on the "blinded by your own biases" argument, though. That seems to be the go-to argument on this forum, but it is the weakest argument you will ever make. Pretty much what you are saying is that Yvonne's viewpoint isn't valid because it doesn't agree with your own. How are her biases blinding while your own aren't?
Everyone's concept of art is entirely different.
Nixxy said:
And valid.
I also, in a way, do not agree with the age of being able to get a tattoo! A lot of people I know get pointless tattoos that are just meaningless, but I can't judge them, I guess, if it's what they like... I also do not agree with others stealing pictures online and getting the same tattoo as one another in said photo. I am also young and I know I will change my mind on life a millions times, but I find it hard to regret my tattoos. Being an armature artist, I can truly respect someone who can work 9 in the morning and leave at midnight, only tattooing people for hours. I certainly could never paint for hours and hours... Most large tattoos take many hours and can take many sessions to complete. After that is done you may still have to get touch ups. The artwork in most tattoos is unbelievable.
Edna said:
That is exactly what I'm saying. I'm not going to try and change someones mind, but when you're clearly denying something because of your own bias... I have no politer way of saying you're free to think whatever you want, but you're not allowing yourself to see the obvious. There is no "debate" to take place about whether tattoos are art or not. My viewpoint is based on my art education... so there is that.
Trust me... the artistic technique (photo realism) is all there. This is not Delaunay, this is a classic artistic technique. period. I challenge you to prove to me how this does not qualify as art from an academic standpoint.
Look, If you were to say that you don't like vanilla ice cream - that's one thing.
But to say that you don't see the art in tattoo art. Is like saying you don't see the athletic element in skateboarding.
Ultimately, I really don't care what the older crowd thinks about tattoos. I'm not going to strive to win the favor of someone that danced the Charleston and listened to Bobby Darin when the city we live in used to be Orange Groves as far as the eye can see.
Ah. That would be an ageist statement. At least we have that out in the open.
If other opinions have to be wrong in order for your opinion to be right, you haven't got much of an argument.
If other opinions have to be wrong in order for your opinion to be right, you haven't got much of an argument.
Edna said:
Ageist? lol ... sure. Like I don't have a grandmother myself.
But I missed the part where you pointed out the lack of artistic technique from an academic standpoint.
Biff Malibu said:
And you need me to do that because ??????
Edna said:
That was uh... the central point of discussion, and something you chose to "call out". I provided my reasoning, I would like to hear yours.
Do we have to turn every fun topic into an argument? C'mon people!
At any rate, I work at a place now where the general rule, laid down by this specific manager, is that as long as it's not of a naked person or has a derogitory message, you can have tattoos wherever you want in the work place. I'm certainly not planning on working there forever, but I am planning on going into a scientific field... I wonder if wildlife biologists are allowed to have tattoos. Guess I'll have to wait and see.
At any rate, I work at a place now where the general rule, laid down by this specific manager, is that as long as it's not of a naked person or has a derogitory message, you can have tattoos wherever you want in the work place. I'm certainly not planning on working there forever, but I am planning on going into a scientific field... I wonder if wildlife biologists are allowed to have tattoos. Guess I'll have to wait and see.
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