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What is the average price of hermann?
It depends on subspecie and if it's wild-caught or captive bred. And country, of course. Captive bred can cost around 200-250$. Wild caught, sadly, can be much cheaper.
 

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It depends on subspecie and if it's wild-caught or captive bred. And country, of course. Captive bred can cost around 200-250$. Wild caught, sadly, can be much cheaper.
The one i found is around 20$ but i don’t think it’s wild cought
 

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The one i found is around 20$ but i don’t think it’s wild cought
Maybe. It really depends on a country. In US you can expect 200-250$ for a Testudo (and super cheap sulcatas - 40-50$), but where I live prices are just the opposite (Testudos go for 30-50€ and sulcatas and redfoots are 150-250€).
 

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Maybe. It really depends on a country. In US you can expect 200-250$ for a Testudo (and super cheap sulcatas - 40-50$), but where I live prices are just the opposite (Testudos go for 30-50€ and sulcatas and redfoots are 150-250€).
Where i live the sulcata average price is around 150$ but i found one for 25$ and didn’t find another one for around that price again
 

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The enclosure i am getting is around 180$ is that good?
Pet shops sell 120 gallons enclosures for 300-500USD, building your own out of PVC is 120-150USD. Your enclosure is larger - so for a 130x80x80 it's the fair price.
 

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Can anyone rate the diet?
And if there is anything wrong tell me
(It’s from ChatGPT but i have corrected anything i knew is wrong)
 

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Can anyone rate the diet?
And if there is anything wrong tell me
(It’s from ChatGPT but i have corrected anything i knew is wrong)
I won't bother with info from some other place. The info here is better. If you want to listen to them, you will discover the truth in listening to Social Media.

Diet is dependent ENTIRELY upon the species of tortoise, thus there is no way to answer your question until you KNOW what kind of tortoise you will have.
 

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I won't bother with info from some other place. The info here is better. If you want to listen to them, you will discover the truth in listening to Social Media.

Diet is dependent ENTIRELY upon the species of tortoise, thus there is no way to answer your question until you KNOW what kind of tortoise you will have.
Well I KNOW what kind of tortoise i will have it’s a hermann tortoise (testudo hermanni) and @Littleredfootbigredheart was going to send a diet but forgot which thread it was in so if anyone knows about testudo hermanni i hope he tell me if there is anything wrong with the diet
 

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Well I KNOW what kind of tortoise i will have it’s a hermann tortoise (testudo hermanni) and @Littleredfootbigredheart was going to send a diet but forgot which thread it was in so if anyone knows about testudo hermanni i hope he tell me if there is anything wrong with the diet
Apologies I completely forgot about that thread! This diet plan doesn’t look too bad but arguably I wouldn’t bother with the fruit treat, maybe some fruit juice squeezed on the greens might be nice once in a while. You might also find this section of Tom’s thread useful, maybe you can find something similar in the links provided where you are?

“Diet:
Russian tortoises need broadleaf weeds. You will need to learn about the weeds near you and which ones are okay to feed or not. Pics can be posted here on the forum in the "Plant ID" section, or you can take samples to a local nursery. Look for dandelion, sow thistle, mallow, filaree, hawksbit, and many more. If you are not 100% sure that your source is free of pesticides and other chemicals, don't feed anything from there.
You can grow your own food too. Here is one of my favorites: http://www.tortoisesupply.com/TestudoMix
I also get lots of seeds here: http://www.groworganic.com
If you must use grocery store foods I like to favor spring mix, endive and escarole heavily. Also add in carrot tops, cilantro, mustard, turnip and collard greens, and lots of other leafy greens.
It is a good idea to add a product called "Salad Style" to grocery store greens to add some fiber: http://www.tortoisesupply.com/salad-style-food-topper/
This is a new food topper and I like it a lot so far: http://www.tortoisesupply.com/HerbalHay
You can also feed them grape, mulberry and hibiscus leaves, tender young spineless opuntia cactus pads, Mazuri tortoise chow and ZooMed Grassland tortoise food. Alternating and mixing up any of these foods will give your russian a good diet and meet its nutritional needs.”
 

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This "diet" is too rigid and has far too much fruit in it.
It also under uses varieties greens, and some of the herbs should be used sparingly.

There should be several kinds of greens, some safe edible weeds, then the exotic and grocery store items. There are days when there doesn't seem to be any greens at all. You can't feed romaine lettuce only. There is no mention of a balanced supplemental item like Mazuri pellets.

You can't force a tortoise to eat something it doesn't want, and like humans, they go through phases of liking and not liking things. There may be some things your tortoise won't like at all, ever. Something this regimented will waste a lot of the food while leaving your tortoise hungry.

And what, specifically, do the the "none" spaces mean?

Stay HERE. Going all over the internet is confusing you.

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Apologies I completely forgot about that thread! This diet plan doesn’t look too bad but arguably I wouldn’t bother with the fruit treat, maybe some fruit juice squeezed on the greens might be nice once in a while. You might also find this section of Tom’s thread useful, maybe you can find something similar in the links provided where you are?

“Diet:
Russian tortoises need broadleaf weeds. You will need to learn about the weeds near you and which ones are okay to feed or not. Pics can be posted here on the forum in the "Plant ID" section, or you can take samples to a local nursery. Look for dandelion, sow thistle, mallow, filaree, hawksbit, and many more. If you are not 100% sure that your source is free of pesticides and other chemicals, don't feed anything from there.
You can grow your own food too. Here is one of my favorites: http://www.tortoisesupply.com/TestudoMix
I also get lots of seeds here: http://www.groworganic.com
If you must use grocery store foods I like to favor spring mix, endive and escarole heavily. Also add in carrot tops, cilantro, mustard, turnip and collard greens, and lots of other leafy greens.
It is a good idea to add a product called "Salad Style" to grocery store greens to add some fiber: http://www.tortoisesupply.com/salad-style-food-topper/
This is a new food topper and I like it a lot so far: http://www.tortoisesupply.com/HerbalHay
You can also feed them grape, mulberry and hibiscus leaves, tender young spineless opuntia cactus pads, Mazuri tortoise chow and ZooMed Grassland tortoise food. Alternating and mixing up any of these foods will give your russian a good diet and meet its nutritional needs.”
I should only be getting the food from the vegetable market right?
 

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I should only be getting the food from the vegetable market right?
I would start with a list of what you have growing outside and can get from grocery stores. Then you can just pickup 2-3 foods from the list and rotate them weekly. E.g. endive/mulberry week, opuntia cactus/moringa week etc.

You can get foods from supermarkets, neighbours gardens, farmer markets, grow your own - wherever you can be sure that greens are aren't overloaded with chemicals.
 

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I would start with a list of what you have growing outside and can get from grocery stores. Then you can just pickup 2-3 foods from the list and rotate them weekly. E.g. endive/mulberry week, opuntia cactus/moringa week etc.

You can get foods from supermarkets, neighbours gardens, farmer markets, grow your own - wherever you can be sure that greens are aren't overloaded with chemicals.
How can i know if the greens aren’t overloaded with chemicals?
And from what i understand it’s Ok if it has few chemicals
 

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How can i know if the greens aren’t overloaded with chemicals?
And from what i understand it’s Ok if it has few chemicals
1. With grocery store items you can check where they come from, prefer "organic" labeled products if it's a term defined in local legislation. Some residue pesticides are inevitable, though.
2. When gathering plants in public places (like parks) - likely they will be treated with pesticides. Same applies to the most garden plants - e.g. hibiscus or mulberry trees, as no one intend to use them for food and gardeners spray chemicals to prevent aphids and other bugs infestations.
3. Generally, plants growing along roads absorb a lot of bad stuff from emission gases.

There is no way to know for sure, unless you run lab tests.
 

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