What A Tortoise's Stone Looks Like

Big Ron

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I always thought that because he drank 2 to 3 gallons of water a week and would lay on the bottom of a water pool that a friend and I hand dug, all summer, he had enough water. I thought I had him set up good enough to live in Oregon. I did almost everything I was told to do, and, Yvonne is my sister for petes sake, so it's not as if I didn't have my own private fountain of information and help. I failed, and my failure to provide something (don't know what) took the life of a personality who was loved by a lot of people...so I absolutely still question and research to prevent that same thing from happening to Big Sam and Knobby, and Big Sam is starting to show signs of dry gritty urates. I am at a loss...This is Bob
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Thank you for answering. This is doubly interesting because I've passed kidney stones...not fun. Does anyone know what happens to start the formation? I've also read that certain herbs can help that in people. I can't remember what they are but possibly just an herbal prevention. Also I read that coffee and acidic drinks lead to stones in people but a tortoise diet is really high in tannic acid also. Sorry to talk your eyes off but maybe Saphire and I need the same veggies. Just a theory.
I am brand new on the forum. I don’t even own a tortoise of any kind yet. I don’t know about tortoises but in people kidney stones are caused from minerals you intake and are in your water. I grew up on well water that was called sulfur water. I couldn’t smell it or taste it but new friends could. You could run a glass of water and let it set overnight and a yellow snot looking glob would form in the glass. That was what I was told caused/causes kidney stones for the majority. So it’s not how much water but quality and purity. I live in the city now and have city water. I don’t/can’t drink it. We use it to bath and wash dishes. We don’t even give it to the dog. FYI we live close to what used to be DuPont and C8 has been in our water system.
 

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I am brand new on the forum. I don’t even own a tortoise of any kind yet. I don’t know about tortoises but in people kidney stones are caused from minerals you intake and are in your water. I grew up on well water that was called sulfur water. I couldn’t smell it or taste it but new friends could. You could run a glass of water and let it set overnight and a yellow snot looking glob would form in the glass. That was what I was told caused/causes kidney stones for the majority. So it’s not how much water but quality and purity. I live in the city now and have city water. I don’t/can’t drink it. We use it to bath and wash dishes. We don’t even give it to the dog. FYI we live close to what used to be DuPont and C8 has been in our water system.
I live in Oregon...I had a 100+ lb. Sulcata...I litteraly did everything I thought necessary to give this tortoise a good life. I adored him. But he died a horrible death with a bladder stone as big as a softball. Now 8 years have passed and as chelonian medicine gets more modern, the reason he got the stone in the first place changes...diet...no matter what I grew or bought, it simply wasn't close enuf to a natural Sulcata diet also my water is awful and he drank it...UVB..he lived in the PNW where in a good year there is still not enuf year round UVB...people in Oregon don't tan...they rust. And #3... (no Tammy, not Dale Earnhardt) number 3 is probably the worst, most unexpected and probably the real reason number 3 should be number 1...in the wild tortoises walk for miles grazing across a sparse savanna....20 miles...he didn't walk anywhere near 20 miles in my back yard. I thought I was doing the best for him...in reality, love killed him cuz I took him to Oregon and my back yard... I still have the stone, but I coudn't find a photo....
my advice to you from me...don't get a giant tortoise unless he can walk 20 miles a day or so...the stone weighed over a pound, and looked like alabaster.
 

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I live in Oregon...I had a 100+ lb. Sulcata...I litteraly did everything I thought necessary to give this tortoise a good life. I adored him. But he died a horrible death with a bladder stone as big as a softball. Now 8 years have passed and as chelonian medicine gets more modern, the reason he got the stone in the first place changes...diet...no matter what I grew or bought, it simply wasn't close enuf to a natural Sulcata diet also my water is awful and he drank it...UVB..he lived in the PNW where in a good year there is still not enuf year round UVB...people in Oregon don't tan...they rust. And #3... (no Tammy, not Dale Earnhardt) number 3 is probably the worst, most unexpected and probably the real reason number 3 should be number 1...in the wild tortoises walk for miles grazing across a sparse savanna....20 miles...he didn't walk anywhere near 20 miles in my back yard. I thought I was doing the best for him...in reality, love killed him cuz I took him to Oregon and my back yard... I still have the stone, but I coudn't find a photo....
my advice to you from me...don't get a giant tortoise unless he can walk 20 miles a day or so...the stone weighed over a pound, and looked like alabaster.
Dear Maggie. Remember that you have no idea what kind of life Bob may have had if you had not taken him and given him your best - a GOOD life for 16 years!!! He may instead have had those 16 years, or more, or less, spent in horrible suffering and deprivation and sickness. You made his life worth living! Consider that. OK?
 

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I live in Oregon...I had a 100+ lb. Sulcata...I litteraly did everything I thought necessary to give this tortoise a good life. I adored him. But he died a horrible death with a bladder stone as big as a softball. Now 8 years have passed and as chelonian medicine gets more modern, the reason he got the stone in the first place changes...diet...no matter what I grew or bought, it simply wasn't close enuf to a natural Sulcata diet also my water is awful and he drank it...UVB..he lived in the PNW where in a good year there is still not enuf year round UVB...people in Oregon don't tan...they rust. And #3... (no Tammy, not Dale Earnhardt) number 3 is probably the worst, most unexpected and probably the real reason number 3 should be number 1...in the wild tortoises walk for miles grazing across a sparse savanna....20 miles...he didn't walk anywhere near 20 miles in my back yard. I thought I was doing the best for him...in reality, love killed him cuz I took him to Oregon and my back yard... I still have the stone, but I coudn't find a photo....
my advice to you from me...don't get a giant tortoise unless he can walk 20 miles a day or so...the stone weighed over a pound, and looked like alabaster.
@Maggie3fan The picture at the beginning of this thread IS Bob's stone.
 

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Guess I shoulda read from the beginning...I'm busted!!! sorry...I love seeing Bob's smile...I've never seen another Sulcata with that smile....it makes me so sad to see him
I cried when I saw that smile. Dear Lord I love my Sulcata and would be a disaster if this happened. Thank you for posting this @Yvonne G, this is VERY important info. Our guy Moe has a small yard but in the spring it will become gigantic. I have always wondered about the walking issue with all our torts. This thread is a deal sealer to me that walking is a VITAL part of Tortoises health, shoot almost all animals health.
Your loss may save countless other Sulcatas, I hope this gives some comfort. I am truly sorry for your loss and wish you peace of mind.
 

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I am brand new on the forum. I don’t even own a tortoise of any kind yet. I don’t know about tortoises but in people kidney stones are caused from minerals you intake and are in your water. I grew up on well water that was called sulfur water. I couldn’t smell it or taste it but new friends could. You could run a glass of water and let it set overnight and a yellow snot looking glob would form in the glass. That was what I was told caused/causes kidney stones for the majority. So it’s not how much water but quality and purity. I live in the city now and have city water. I don’t/can’t drink it. We use it to bath and wash dishes. We don’t even give it to the dog. FYI we live close to what used to be DuPont and C8 has been in our water system.
I use filtered water for my tortoise. Filtered with a pur water filter. Also for my rabbit and cat for drinking water. I wish I could afford to buy spring water for them like I do for myself. Our city water is so hard it leaves thick calcium deposits on everything. It ruins plumbing. I won't use it in my humidifiers or as drinking water even if it's filtered. I don't know anyone that can drink our tap city water and feel good afterwards. I won't even cook with tap water here.
 

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I use filtered water for my tortoise. Filtered with a pur water filter. Also for my rabbit and cat for drinking water. I wish I could afford to buy spring water for them like I do for myself. Our city water is so hard it leaves thick calcium deposits on everything. It ruins plumbing. I won't use it in my humidifiers or as drinking water even if it's filtered. I don't know anyone that can drink our tap city water and feel good afterwards. I won't even cook with tap water here.
Ummm ..... Just so you know, that pur water filter does nothing for hard water. Calcium and Magnesium are the main culprits for hard water, and CAN NOT be removed with a filter. The only exception to this is Reverse Osmosis filtration. You can buy a R.O. system for less than $300 that will give you and your loved ones PURE water not PUR water. If this is something you would be interested in let me know I can help you through the process.
 

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My water is horrible so the cats and birds and I drink bottled spring water and I figure my turtle and tortoises eat their own poop, so they can drink the water...
 

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My water is horrible so the cats and birds and I drink bottled spring water and I figure my turtle and tortoises eat their own poop, so they can drink the water...
It is very important to know WHAT is in your water, including bottled water. 99% of bottled water has minerals added for taste. What exact minerals is important. Example: a person with kidney issues would benefit from a water that has Calcium added, to bind Potassium. A bottled water that has added potassium would be BAD for a person with kidney issues. VERY important to know whats being put into our bodies.
 

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Ummm ..... Just so you know, that pur water filter does nothing for hard water. Calcium and Magnesium are the main culprits for hard water, and CAN NOT be removed with a filter. The only exception to this is Reverse Osmosis filtration. You can buy a R.O. system for less than $300 that will give you and your loved ones PURE water not PUR water. If this is something you would be interested in let me know I can help you through the process.
RO water is the only bottled water besides spring that I can actually drink myself. So I agree. Ozonated really affects me because I have allergies. It makes me feel like I have a noose around my neck squeezing. I can tell that the pur water filter does nothing for the hard water. It will build up the calcium deposits on teapots etc anyway. I'm more concerned about chlorine and the other chemicals in our tap water or I would do the RO filtration for my animals too. I'm not sure that that can be done in our house because of the type of house it is. It would take so many major changes that it may be detrimental to the plumbing here. It's a National Home built in probably the 50's. 😊
 
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