jeff kushner
Well-Known Member
I don't know about others and how they process "work anger" at a task, which is kinda the whole point of this. Let's keep very clear; I am NOT talking about folks with emotional issues or any type of violent behavior.
I'm talking about being tasked with a pointless endeavor, one that has zero chance of success?
Do you get mad and complain or just roll over and do it without thinking?
Case in point....bet you are shocked that I just happened to have one, right?
I am looking at drawings for a decent sized Data Canter project, this is a 18MW pjt so that equates to around 5100 tons of cooling or around 40,000 man hours of labor by the time the take off is compiled. The building to be built will have a 3.25 acres footprint. The problem is, when I look in from my sneaky satellite views, I can clearly see the other two Data Center buildings that I've bid for the same owner on the overall site! One on 2021, one in 2022. Guess who didn't do either of them? Think I have a shot at this one? If you do, I have some Metaverse real estate you might be interested in!
The GC's use us to get their fav guy low, then give him the project. I'll show you how;
I can correctly assemble the costs so we don't lose on the numbers, we lose the political game with the embedded incestual relationships. On the 2021 project AFTER the bid, our competition suddenly and "unsolicited" resubmitted their bid with a million dollar cut. At least that's what was claimed.....hmmmm. They instantly went from $700K above us to $300K below us two weeks after the bid date! The Owner doesn't care because he's getting a better price for the same work by a larger firm! Really,..as I told Steve, the competitor's Chief Estimator (who worked for me many years ago) weeks later, the cost for us to prepare the losing bid was 30K but the owner used our firm to take a MILLION dollars in profit from his firm. I'm not sure he was ready to hear that......or if he's heard that I may be bidding this one? Hopefully I won't have to.....
This is an ego thing.....owners have egos.....they love to do BIG jobs.....kind of like 5 yr old boys with big Tonka trucks. They hire guys like me to man the rudder and steer towards the best projects for their firm because they are too managed by their egos and the smart ones know it. They rarely see the overall implications of taking their talent offline to F with a project they won't get. We'll have this chat today.....wish me luck!
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I'm talking about being tasked with a pointless endeavor, one that has zero chance of success?
Do you get mad and complain or just roll over and do it without thinking?
Case in point....bet you are shocked that I just happened to have one, right?
I am looking at drawings for a decent sized Data Canter project, this is a 18MW pjt so that equates to around 5100 tons of cooling or around 40,000 man hours of labor by the time the take off is compiled. The building to be built will have a 3.25 acres footprint. The problem is, when I look in from my sneaky satellite views, I can clearly see the other two Data Center buildings that I've bid for the same owner on the overall site! One on 2021, one in 2022. Guess who didn't do either of them? Think I have a shot at this one? If you do, I have some Metaverse real estate you might be interested in!
The GC's use us to get their fav guy low, then give him the project. I'll show you how;
I can correctly assemble the costs so we don't lose on the numbers, we lose the political game with the embedded incestual relationships. On the 2021 project AFTER the bid, our competition suddenly and "unsolicited" resubmitted their bid with a million dollar cut. At least that's what was claimed.....hmmmm. They instantly went from $700K above us to $300K below us two weeks after the bid date! The Owner doesn't care because he's getting a better price for the same work by a larger firm! Really,..as I told Steve, the competitor's Chief Estimator (who worked for me many years ago) weeks later, the cost for us to prepare the losing bid was 30K but the owner used our firm to take a MILLION dollars in profit from his firm. I'm not sure he was ready to hear that......or if he's heard that I may be bidding this one? Hopefully I won't have to.....
This is an ego thing.....owners have egos.....they love to do BIG jobs.....kind of like 5 yr old boys with big Tonka trucks. They hire guys like me to man the rudder and steer towards the best projects for their firm because they are too managed by their egos and the smart ones know it. They rarely see the overall implications of taking their talent offline to F with a project they won't get. We'll have this chat today.....wish me luck!
LOL