8 to 14 months.

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Wonder if you guys can help please.

I would like to see as many redfoot pics of 8 to 14 month olds.
Thank you.
 

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I have been really remiss in not taking any pics of them since I got them when they were a few weeks old!
I shall take some pics and post them here by Monday, promise.
But now you have to make it OK for 19-month olds or others here will say you are being biased just for me.:rolleyes:
 

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I have been really remiss in not taking any pics of them since I got them when they were a few weeks old!
I shall take some pics and post them here by Monday, promise.
But now you have to make it OK for 19-month olds or others here will say you are being biased just for me.:rolleyes:
Ok. I'll sort it out so there is no bad feelings.

Anyone can post pictures of redfoots up to 19 months and 1 day old. :D:D
 

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I have some pictures around that time for all of my four. I added a current picture too because I'm that excited to show you my tortoises! I know you didn't ask for the comparison, but I'm being selfish and adding them anyway...

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Coagi
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Mimosa
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Mandarin
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Somewhere along the way we got a few bumps on a all but Rafiki. I honestly can't say why!

Also, note the color change for Mandarin and Mimosa; they were both very orange as neonates and currently have more red undertones than as hatchlings. Their names are orange-based but their colors darkened a bit as they aged.
 

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Good afternoon red strike.

They all look good to me, and are still developing now. Any photos are welcome. I wanted to see how they developed from around & months on. I noticed they seem to go through an ugly stage. It looks like it's when the scute plates thicken. If you look coagi when younger it looked as if pyramiding was kicking in(oook between 1st and 2nd vertabral scutes) but as she grew between the scutes filled out smooth. Probably as the bone thickens and as the tort grows it lines the scutes up level. Curvature of a 4" carapace to 16" carapace must change, so how's hardened keratin follow the change?
Yeah yeah yeah I'm thinking too much again.
 

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Good afternoon red strike.

They all look good to me, and are still developing now. Any photos are welcome. I wanted to see how they developed from around & months on. I noticed they seem to go through an ugly stage. It looks like it's when the scute plates thicken. If you look coagi when younger it looked as if pyramiding was kicking in(oook between 1st and 2nd vertabral scutes) but as she grew between the scutes filled out smooth. Probably as the bone thickens and as the tort grows it lines the scutes up level. Curvature of a 4" carapace to 16" carapace must change, so how's hardened keratin follow the change?
Yeah yeah yeah I'm thinking too much again.

It appears to be that way, yes. Rafiki for some reason did not follow that pattern and has almost always been smooth. I'll dig through pictures and see if I can get a picture of that with Rafiki at a younger age. I feel like she may have had that thickening and raising as you describe but she's currently very smooth.
 

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Very nice colours. So blue is around 6 months old
Where's the parents photos :rolleyes:

Little dudes growing like a hound, don’t know how Tyler raises his adults other than with a fair amount of obvious attitude and sass. Wish I had the knew the adults colonies to get an idea of how this guy will be but you’ll have to ask @TylerStewart for the adults. Just know he is from the High Color section [emoji6]
 

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Little dudes growing like a hound, don’t know how Tyler raises his adults other than with a fair amount of obvious attitude and sass. Wish I had the knew the adults colonies to get an idea of how this guy will be but you’ll have to ask @TylerStewart for the adults. Just know he is from the High Color section [emoji6]

Rip, auto correct doesn’t like me today.
 

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Have you got any photos to show. Ignore the title. Any age tort. Can I see a side view of both you'd 17yr olds that you raised :D
 

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Your torts look great @Anyfoot. A marginal amount of bumpiness on the largest, much like my own. In my experience some just seem more prone to cosmetic bumps than others despite identical conditions (ignoring microclimates, tortoises’ choices, and a laundry list of other covariates).
 

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Morning,
I have some pictures around that time for all of my four. I added a current picture too because I'm that excited to show you my tortoises! I know you didn't ask for the comparison, but I'm being selfish and adding them anyway...

Rafiki
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Somewhere along the way we got a few bumps on a all but Rafiki. I honestly can't say why!

Also, note the color change for Mandarin and Mimosa; they were both very orange as neonates and currently have more red undertones than as hatchlings. Their names are orange-based but their colors darkened a bit as they aged.

Awesome looking Cherryheads!
 

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Awesome looking Cherryheads!
From constantly observing my babies habits, I'm thinking when they hide, having dense moist debris on their carapace is making a big difference in how they grow. The big one you see that has minor bumps on it was the most out going one and thinking back now didn't hide away often. It slept in the corners digging in but not with debris on the carapace. None of these 3 had a basking spot. I'm seeing the same habits with my babies now. They get fearless and tame and stop digging deep in the coir/moss and other debris. It's not natural. You would think Predators keep them at bay in the wild or they are doomed.
I still don't think we should be doing anything that dries the carapace out(basking spots) but how crucial that is I don't know. It's back to my thought that I don't think can be answered. Does bone grow the most when at rest. It does with mammals. Let's just say they only grew when at rest, this could answer why some species (babies) are ok getting D3 from the sun for a bit whilst grazing in the depths of foliage. What we are doing in captivity when providing a basking spot is also a place to rest(grow). In the wild if resting out in the open they become dinner, so they move around eating them hide away in the dense moist debris to rest. I know some of us say reds don't bask, my adults do, and my babies do if I let them. We need to be the predator and prevent basking at the soft bone stage is what I'm thinking.
The fact that my bigger one has minor pyramiding means that taking away a basking spot does not stop minor pyramiding, even at 90% humidity and soaks. It must be how they are sleeping. The other 2 slept under a log the most of the time, I used to spray the log and it soaked through the log onto their carapaces.
Have you ever noticed how they are creature of habits, 9 times out of 10 each tort is in its own place within the enclosure.
 

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It's been pouring with rain here all weekend and today so no photo opportunities for me with my redfoots.
The pyramiding thing is really interesting. One of mine has a really bumpy part way back on his carapace while the rest is fairly smooth, and the other one is mostly all smooth. Both of them bask in the outside enclosure, but it's mostly covered with wet straw/grasses on the wire mesh top, and there are lots of weeds in it so it's kept as warm and humid as I can naturally make it. I will post pics ASAP!
Enjoying this thread.
 
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