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As of today, all beaches in Palm beach, Broward and Dade counties have been ordered closed.
Also ALL non essential businesses.
Funny, because I saw a wig shop that was opened.
So, I'm not sure who decides what is actually essential.
I also sold a motorcycle frame and went inside the bank to deposit the check. There are signs saying that no one can withdraw more than $2,500.
Lots of folks are doing a cash grab. I'm pretty sure that is just not needed. But, it's a thing.
 

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Men are not showing a greater infection rate.

Women and men are having equivalent numbers of positive test results. They are even being admitted to hospitals at equivalent rates, for similar symptoms.

Men are DYING at twice the rate of women. There are lots and lots of possible reasons why this is happening, but, again, we won't likely know for sure until we are post-emergency stages, and there is a good deal of data to analyze.

In countries where things are completely out of control, there are no autopsies being done, so no data will be coming with regard to whether men's lung tissue is more susceptible to fatal complications, or how infection/bacterial & fungal co-infection is interacting with co-morbid conditions (heart disease, etc.).

Any source speaking with certainty on this is lying. And either a disinformation bot/troll or a victim of disinformation (circulated by foreign agents or science-illiterates in Washington, D.C.).

Maybe smoking cigarettes has something to do with the death tolls between men and women. It seems to me, at this day in age, there are more male smokers than female smokers. Having lung failure of some sort would greatly increase your mortality probability I would imagine. I’m sure someone is looking into it somewhere. I’m very interested in finding out all the details down the road, probably way down the road
 
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Maybe smoking cigarettes has something to do with the death tolls between men and women. It seems to me, at this day in age, there are more male smokers than female smokers. Having lung failure of some sort would greatly increase your mortality probability I would imagine. I’m sure someone is looking into it somewhere. I’m very interested in finding out all the details down the road, probably way down the road

Currents smoking percentages between men and women in the U.S. are not statistically different:


Male usage of e-cigarettes does seem to outpace that of women:


Though smoking does predispose the lungs to complications, a history of smoking does not on its face sufficiently explain why women are twice as able to recover from COVID-(20)19 with medical support than men. A very significant number of people being hospitalized have no pre-disposing condition; young children and infants are being diagnosed and are ill enough to be hospitalized. Events are evolving rapidly in many directions.

In order to get into the finer points of why all the whys, the CDC will have to call in all of the patient files, have the data compiled, and analyzed for trends in any of the population variables. Easier done now with computers, but still quite the job.

This assumes the CDC is at all interested in and willing to do the study. When my mother's doctor diagnosed her with Lyme Disease in the 1980s, he asked her if she wanted him to report her case to the CDC. He preferred not to since the process was arduous and resulted in a giant hassle.
 

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Does anyone know why when I reply to a post my message ends up in the sub post? It only does it sometimes. I’m using my phone. No computer

It looked like you deleted part of the ending quote tag [/quote], and the forums software automatically added one to the end of your post to avoid messing up the whole page.
 

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Currents smoking percentages between men and women in the U.S. are not statistically different:


Male usage of e-cigarettes does seem to outpace that of women:


Though smoking does predispose the lungs to complications, a history of smoking does not on its face sufficiently explain why women are twice as able to recover from COVID-(20)19 with medical support than men. A very significant number of people being hospitalized have no pre-disposing condition; young children and infants are being diagnosed and are ill enough to be hospitalized. Events are evolving rapidly in many directions.

In order to get into the finer points of why all the whys, the CDC will have to call in all of the patient files, have the data compiled, and analyzed for trends in any of the population variables. Easier done now with computers, but still quite the job.

This assumes the CDC is at all interested in and willing to do the study. When my mother's doctor diagnosed her with Lyme Disease in the 1980s, he asked her if she wanted him to report her case to the CDC. He preferred not to since the process was arduous and resulted in a giant hassle.
Interesting. Those numbers are way closer then I would have imagined. Thank you for the research. I’m once again at a loss
 

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I hear on the tv that people are testing positive for the virus that to their knowledge they have not had contact with anyone carrying it. I have not heard anyone mention the possibility that the virus could be living on the mail people receive from the USPS. Cash transactions are no longer accepted at some businesses because of the possibility of it being contaminated with the virus.
This from a Harvard education site:

How long can the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 survive on surfaces?

A recent study found that the COVID-19 coronavirus can survive up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. The researchers also found that this virus can hang out as droplets in the air for up to three hours before they fall. But most often they will fall more quickly.

There's a lot we still don't know, such as how different conditions, such as exposure to sunlight, heat, or cold, can affect these survival times.

As we learn more, continue to follow the CDC's recommendations for cleaning frequently touched surfaces and objects every day. These include counters, tabletops, doorknobs, bathroom fixtures, toilets, phones, keyboards, tablets, and bedside tables.

If surfaces are dirty, first clean them using a detergent and water, then disinfect them. A list of products suitable for use against COVID-19 is available here. This list has been pre-approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for use during the COVID-19 outbreak.

In addition, wash your hands for 20 seconds with soap and water after bringing in packages, or after trips to the grocery store or other places where you may have come into contact with infected surfaces.
 

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Men are not showing a greater infection rate.

Women and men are having equivalent numbers of positive test results. They are even being admitted to hospitals at equivalent rates, for similar symptoms.

Men are DYING twice as often from complications.
I saw a special the other day about an ICU in Italy. Out of 20 something people in there, only one was female.
 

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I saw a special the other day about an ICU in Italy. Out of 20 something people in there, only one was female.

Yeah, the gendered death rate is the one thing we know for sure is happening because of the binary identification of patients.

Although, since the situation in Italy is so dire, we can't rule out a sexist bias in choosing who gets life-saving equipment and efforts...
 

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New Mexico got the orders about an hour and a half ago to keep their butts at home and for nonessential businesses to close the doors. One of my national guard friends hasn’t been answering phone calls or text and didn’t show up to her 9-5 job.

So here we go.

I am not able to stay at home as my job is viewed essential critical. Cross yr fingers or say some prayers for me plz.

-Meg
 

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New Mexico got the orders about an hour and a half ago to keep their butts at home and for nonessential businesses to close the doors. One of my national guard friends hasn’t been answering phone calls or text and didn’t show up to her 9-5 job.

So here we go.

I am not able to stay at home as my job is viewed essential critical. Cross yr fingers or say some prayers for me plz.

-Meg
Best of luck, stay safe out there.
 

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There is no doubt that this virus will eventually be in contact with everyone, and it will run its course. Just like the flu, millions have been exposed, while only a small percentage show symptoms, and an even smaller fraction of those exposed have life threatening complications. A friend of ours that was visiting from out of state just got a call from the CDC this morning informing her that she does indeed have the virus. She contracted it on the plane ride home from here and we are outside the "window" of time that would make them concerned about us. Meanwhile she's had tons of friends and family coming and going from her house while she's been sick and showing symptoms. If this thing is airborne for hours and lives on surfaces for days, there is no way for any of us to avoid contact with it.

On a scary note, the CDC lady knew everything about where our friend had been for the last few weeks, and knew many details about her daily life that our friend never told anyone. If there is anyone who doesn't think we are living in Orwell's 1984, let this be your wake up call. WAKE UP! Big Brother is watching.

Hopefully, the rate of infected people needing serious medical help won't overwhelm the system as it has in Italy. Once everyone has been exposed and the rate of new cases starts declining, we can all go back to work and our normal lives. I can't imagine, given how this thing spreads, that anyone I know has not already been exposed to it. I know several people that had the symptoms, recovered, and figured they just had a bad cold or the flu, before this thing was really known. I think that if everyone was tested, we'd be shocked at how many have already had exposure.
 

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Maybe men are more social & active in closer knit groups. Poker games, bocci ball, backgammon games....etc.?
Yeah. Men are in general more unhealthy then women. I am a server. I get to hear and see everything men divulge about their diets (and of course personal experience) This may be a bit much but Erectile Dysfunction is a pre existing health condition that is a precursor to heart disease and stroke. And if anyone in America has watched TV for more than 30 minutes in the past 5-10 yrs you will see the commercials for ED and makes you think that it is very common health condition.
 

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There is no doubt that this virus will eventually be in contact with everyone, and it will run its course. Just like the flu, millions have been exposed, while only a small percentage show symptoms, and an even smaller fraction of those exposed have life threatening complications. A friend of ours that was visiting from out of state just got a call from the CDC this morning informing her that she does indeed have the virus. She contracted it on the plane ride home from here and we are outside the "window" of time that would make them concerned about us. Meanwhile she's had tons of friends and family coming and going from her house while she's been sick and showing symptoms. If this thing is airborne for hours and lives on surfaces for days, there is no way for any of us to avoid contact with it.

On a scary note, the CDC lady knew everything about where our friend had been for the last few weeks, and knew many details about her daily life that our friend never told anyone. If there is anyone who doesn't think we are living in Orwell's 1984, let this be your wake up call. WAKE UP! Big Brother is watching.

Hopefully, the rate of infected people needing serious medical help won't overwhelm the system as it has in Italy. Once everyone has been exposed and the rate of new cases starts declining, we can all go back to work and our normal lives. I can't imagine, given how this thing spreads, that anyone I know has not already been exposed to it. I know several people that had the symptoms, recovered, and figured they just had a bad cold or the flu, before this thing was really known. I think that if everyone was tested, we'd be shocked at how many have already had exposure.
There was a lot of talk here in GA back in January about a "weird Flu"going around. Me and a couple of the guys at work even joked with a couple worker saying maybe it's Coronavirus. In retrospect, I think it's entirely possible it was.
 

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There was a lot of talk here in GA back in January about a "weird Flu"going around. Me and a couple of the guys at work even joked with a couple worker saying maybe it's Coronavirus. In retrospect, I think it's entirely possible it was.

South Korea has kicked COVID-19 butt. They were more proactive about mass-disinfection of public spaces. Their health authority has plenty of tests (tests everyone), and they use phone telemetry to push notice everyone a positive phone crossed paths with. Then everyone is quarantined. This was a nationwide system; people have been cooperative and uncomplaining about protecting the entire population.


Because we are working with a limited number of tests, we cannot hope to deploy this system.
 

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