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Discussion in 'Galapagos and Chaco tortoises' started by leopard777, Oct 8, 2014.

  1. leopard777

    leopard777 Active Member 5 Year Member

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    i find chaco and sulcata look quite similar when juvenile , what sort of traits to look out for ? other then clean white marking on the shell
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    tortadise Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    Chacos have much bigger heads/eyes. They also will have chevrons on there plastron when juvenile and young adult. Sulcatas will not. Chacos also have a bicuspid beak and sulcatas have tricuspid beak. More people get them confused then normal. They're very rare in the United States. When they are young chacos will have spots in the center of the scutes kinda like a leopard and outlined with a darker brown at the growth lines. Sulcatas are always just blondish or tan.
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    leopard777 Active Member 5 Year Member

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    ah ok , they have to related or something
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    tortadise Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    Nope. Well they're both tortoises at least ha. The Chaco tortoise phylogenic history comes from the Galapagos tortoise actually. At some point many many many hundreds of thousands of years ago they must have ventured off from the stating point of the tortoise in South America and evolved into a small desert extreme condition species. Most full arid(desert) species are very small and lay very large eggs too. The only other species of tortoise that similarly live like a Chaco is a band of species from western South Africa, Namibia, and parts of Botswana and the Egyptian from north east Africa. Small little buggers.

    Here's some chacos for yah.
    I'm sure you don't need any sulcatas as there plenty of pics on here for that.
    The two pyramided specimens are captive bred and raised. The one in the middle is Chico. I've had him for 15 years and the lady before me for 20 years. He is very very old and weathered looking. But Classic Chaco.
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    leopard777 Active Member 5 Year Member

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    nice , any signs of breeding yet ?

    full arid(desert) species as in like mojave desert tortoise ?
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    tortadise Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    Yep full arid complete desert, sand and everything. Not complete sand but very rocky dry and hot during summer. Have an egg incubating right now actually. Needs about 8-9 more months to go though. Was laid in early July. They take a very long time to hatch.
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    Anthony P Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Looks like they love that Rose of Sharon, Kelly. Awesome.
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    Anthony P Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Oh... It's hibiscus... Whoops..
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    tortadise Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    Same thing :)
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    leopard777 Active Member 5 Year Member

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    8-9 months thats long , how many eggs the female lay ?
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    tortadise Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    Well they take up to a year. The egg has been in diapause and incubation since July. She laid 4 one broke and two were laid at night and the armadillo got them which sucked.
  12. Chico looks a bit overwhelmed by the bigger tortoises. Is he shy? Are they a shy species? I was hoping a Chaco would be my next tort...:rolleyes:
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    tortadise Well-Known Member Moderator 5 Year Member

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    Not shy at all. They're just like a California desert tortoise but the males aren't as aggressive. Flipping will take place but not as severe.
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    guess is that explain why the rarity of it
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    i think the most significant difference between them is PRICE $$
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    One memory I have of my baby Chaco is that the front of his forearms had big prominent pinecone like scales mostly all over:<3:.
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