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Discussion in 'Debatable Topics' started by Tom, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. Tom

    Tom The Dog Trainer 5 Year Member

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    Any should work. You can get a fancy Helix digital proportional one for about $140, or you can get a Ranco higher end on/off type for about $80, or you can get the cheaper $30 ones. All work.
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    Tom The Dog Trainer 5 Year Member

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    I have no experience with that one, but it looks like it would work. Says its rated to 1200 watts of output which is WAAAAAAYYY more than anyone should need for a single enclosure.

    I've used these two, plus the previously mentioned Ranco and Helix:
    https://www.lllreptile.com/products/13883-zilla-1000-watt-temperature-controller
    https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/MTPRTC

    All of the above have worked very well for me in a wide variety of applications.
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    @Tom my tortoise with the extra/split scute is causing some irregular growth or rough growth is that a concern or is it okay
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    That is pretty normal. I usually see some unusual growth around aberrant scutes of any kind. Its not a problem and in time it usually fades away and becomes less noticeable.
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    Hi everyone,

    I am new to the forum and am trying to do as much research as I can about sulcata's as my husband and I would like to get one in about a year. I was wondering if an indoor enclosure like this could be set up on our porch which is covered as we do not have a big enough space to put a 4'x8' enclosure inside the house and we do not have a garage. The main thing I would be worried about is how hot it gets in the summer. We live in Northern California close to Sacramento. We have had multiple days over 110f this summer. The enclosure would be shaded on the porch and we would be insulating the enclosure. Just wondering people's thoughts on this idea I don't want to do the wrong thing and end up hurting the tort! Thanks for supplying all of this great information!!
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    It will be difficult to maintain the correct temperatures with the enclosure outside. WIth your below freezing winter nights and your 110 degree summer days, it isn't going to work well.

    If you don't have room to start a baby indoors, how about adopting an older tortoise in need of a home that is of the right size (12"+) to live outside full time.
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    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for the reply, yeah that's what I was worried about. We will re asses when the house is finished (currently we are building it) and if we cannot figure out a space inside that is big enough we will look into adopting an older tortoise. We live on a ranch and have plenty of room outside so I'm just worried about the indoor space.

    Thanks!
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    @Tom How have your unfinished plywood enclosures held up with the high humidity? Any mold? I know Mark really water proofs his. Wondering if this will be necessary for me or not. Thanks.
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    Sides and tops hold up fine completely untreated, but the bottoms have been rotting out. Plastic liners, paint, and DryLok have all failed. Next one will get this: http://www.pondarmor.com
    That should solve the problem once and for all.

    In the past I also used non-toxic boat hull paint and that worked well, but it was expensive. $100 for the primer and $130 for the paint, plus tax and shipping.
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    Cool. Will check out pond armor. Have you tried a pond liner?
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    No, but I used some pretty thick plastic the last time and their nails and shells have worn through it.
    KevinGG likes this.
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    Is there a reason that plexiglass is not used instead of plywood so that there isn't a rotting issue?
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    Expense. These are pretty big enclosures. I'm building an 8x4x4 enclosure now. That would be considerably more expensive. Also can't insulate plexiglass.
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    Cost and ease of working with the material. If you are comfortable working with plexi, go for it!

    I've decided it is going to be easier to just buy plastic cages, instead of building them. Finally found a type that suits my needs:
    http://www.apcages.com/home/terrestrial/terrestrial.htm
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    Thanks @KevinGG and @Tom. I hadn't thought of the insulation issue.
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    This looks perfect! But was it difficult to build because I am quite hopeless at woodworking and building In general
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    Not difficult at all. Very simple to do.
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    Oh ok, I’ll be sure to try. How much would it cost
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    Depends on how you build it. If it is indoors and the room is kept heated in winter, then you probably won't need to make it double layered with insulation. You'll need a sheet of plywood for the top and bottom, then a third sheet can make up the back and sides. The front will be the biggest challenge. You'll have to figure out what to use over there to make it.

    Over here, with paint and primer, screws, sealant and all the other stuff, its about $300.
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