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OMG, that is so Sad to hear, such majestic creatures to be targeted for doing what comes natural. Really hoping the Dorset Police’s Rural Crime Team, get to the bottom of this and hold all people responsible. And . . if MP Loder has any connection, then he needs to be voted out or removed from service....scoundrel's !
And thank you @Maro2Bear for posting this...
Probably one of the shooting set that doesn't like competition from wildlife for killing birds.
Absolutely appalling! Fortunately the police do not need his permission.
 

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Greeting friends, , ,yesterday here in SF Bay area it was SUNNY ☀️ and Warm, like 80°+ warm.
Went for a walk down at the Pinole/Hercules waterfront, where the Powder Plant's (dynamite) used to be. Way too warm for February, but I WILL make use of it....
Will probably let my Seymour buddy wander the yard (supervised) for a bit today, to get some fresh air & sunshine and to explore.....
Hope everyone has a wonderful day.
Hope Seymour enjoys his stroll in the sun and that your day is going well to Marsha!
 

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Tidgy is a girl, the little minx.
She is, and will always be a tortoise, but she still either belongs to the group that has a single flagella or none, or the group that has two. View attachment 340444
Okay I'll take a guess despite my limited knowledge of science. She is a eukaryote. Simply because life can evolve in so many ways.?
 

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I can’t find @Toddrickfl1 ’s post on growing things hydroponically so I’ll just have to tag him in here….


and aquaponic systems as well

 

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Tidgy is a girl, the little minx.
She is, and will always be a tortoise, but she still either belongs to the group that has a single flagella or none, or the group that has two. View attachment 340444
well, if you've used Flagyl on her recently, hopefully she has none!
 

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Okay I'll take a guess despite my limited knowledge of science. She is a eukaryote. Simply because life can evolve in so many ways.?
Yes, she is a eukaryote as she has cell nuclei and organelles, but she is also a member of the Unikonta, as am I. This means a member of a group whose original single-celled ancestors had either one or no flagella to move them about.
The group contains two subgroups, the Amoebozoa with no flagella and the Obazoa with one flagellum.
 

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well, if you've used Flagyl on her recently, hopefully she has none!
Well tortoise ancestors and ours have one flagellum. So we are Obazoa.
You can still see it in the sperm cells of both our species that have one flagellum to move them.
Obazoa appeared at least 1,031.4 million years ago and probably date back as far as 1,350 million years according to molecular clock data.
 
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Yes, she is a eukaryote as she has cell nuclei and organelles, but she is also a member of the Unikonta, as am I. This means a member of a group whose original single-celled ancestors had either one or no flagella to move them about.
The group contains two subgroups, the Amoebozoa with no flagella and the Obazoa with one flagellum.
Ok let's see if I get this straight... so we all had to go downhill first before we took off ? you'd think a eukaryote would learn how to get 3 flagella first but no...
 

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Ok let's see if I get this straight... so we all had to go downhill first before we took off ? you'd think a eukaryote would learn how to get 3 flagella first but no...
One flagellum is easier to control and uses less energy.
The Obozoa is split into a couple of groups that have the flagellum at the front and is used to pull the organism along and those that have the flagellum at the rear and pushes the cell forward.
Our sperm cells and those of all animals do this as do those of fungi, so we all belong to the Opisthokonta, as do fungi.
It is interesting that we are more closely related to fungi than we or fungi are to amoeba or plants. Molecular analysis and DNA comparisons back this up.
 

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One flagellum is easier to control and uses less energy.
The Obozoa is split into a couple of groups that have the flagellum at the front and is used to pull the organism along and those that have the flagellum at the rear and pushes the cell forward.
Our sperm cells and those of all animals do this as do those of fungi, so we all belong to the Opisthokonta, as do fungi.
It is interesting that we are more closely related to fungi than we or fungi are to amoeba or plants. Molecular analysis and DNA comparisons back this up.
Some how some way? it makes really good sense that the human race is deeply related to fungi.
 

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The Opisthokanta is split into two groups, the Holomycota ('like fungi) which includes all fungi and opisthokants that are closer to fungi than to animals and the Holozoa (like animals) which includes animals and all the single-celled opisthokants that are closer to animals than to fungi. The Holozoa first appeared about 1 billion years ago.
So Tidgy is a Holozoan.
 
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The Opisthokanta is split into two groups, the Holomycota ('like fungi) which includes all fungi and opisthokants that are closer to fungi than to animals and the Holozoa which includes animals and all the single-celled opisthokants that are closer to animals than to fungi. The Holozoa first appeared about 1 billion years ago.
So Tidgy is a Holozoan.
The hell you say!!!
 

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The Filozoa contains the Filasterea and the Choanozoa.
The Filasterea were single-celled organisms which could switch between asexual and sexual reproduction placing the origin of sex at about a billion years ago.
But Tidgy belongs to the other group which contains the animals and their immediate probable ancestors.
So Tidgy is a Choanozoan, a group that seem to have evolved from a common ancestor within the Filozoa between a billion and 800 million years ago.
 

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The Filozoa contains the Filasterea and the Choanozoa.
The Filasterea were single-celled organisms which could switch between asexual and sexual reproduction placing the origin of sex at about a billion years ago.
But Tidgy belongs to the other group which contains the animals and their immediate probable ancestors.
So Tidgy is a Choanozoan, a group that seem to have evolved from a common ancestor within the Filozoa between a billion and 800 million years ago.
Ya, this is my great, great, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT . . . . Grand ma....1644640414385.png
 

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The Cryogenian is a Geological period that occurred from 720 to 635 million years ago. The beginning of it and the end of it were marked by the greatest glaciations of all time, though another nearly as noteworthy happened when there was the extinction caused by increase in oxygen millions of years earlier. So the ice ages in the Cryogenian are known as Snowball Earth and again wiped out huge numbers of living species.
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The Choanozoa contain the Choanoflagellata, a group that have single-celled and multicellular members. Later members had a frill around the end of the organism surrounding the flagellum and this eventually led to the first true animals; the Porifera, commonly known as sponges about 665 million years ago. This happened between the two major glaciations of the Cryogenian and was probably partly due to the melting of the ice causing huge amounts of sediment to be washed into the oceans allowing lots of elements and compounds to become available for organisms to metabolize. This seems to have speeded up the process of evolution.
All animals are multicellular and are known as Kingdom Animalia, or more correctly, Metazoa. All animals also have some form of internal digestive tract.
Tidgy is a Metazoan.
 

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