I agree with Ray. Fall is settilng in around here also. Eat comfort food and get back to it tomorrow. Even the turtles may just want to not be disturbed.Will (my tortoise partner) set it up with a PVC coming from the bottom that I just have to tip down to the ground and it empties. I still have to use the shop vac to get what doesn't reach the drain. Then the time consuming part of filling each tub. I generally forget I'm doing this part and end up draining the over fill.
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