COLD DARK ROOM

[Tidgy's Dad]

A bark?
I had a barking tree frog scare me half to death once.

Some bark, but not this one.

 

[jaizei]

That's the noise camels make.
Morning.

I was thinking Kermit. He hmmphs doesn't he? Or is that piggy?

 

[jaizei]

And you brought this upon yourself

 

[meech008]

Morning all!

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I was thinking Kermit. He hmmphs doesn't he? Or is that piggy?

I think Kermit "hmmmms" and Miss Piggy "hmmmphs", but it's not really my area.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

And you brought this upon yourself

Yep.
Asked for that, didn't I ?

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Morning all!

Morning, Michelle.
Have a coffee.

 

[meech008]

Morning, Michelle.
Have a coffee.

Thank you, I think I will. I brought some cream and sugar. Have a nice night?

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Thank you, I think I will. I brought some cream and sugar. Have a nice night?

Yes, thanks, but up early to do some stuff.
All good though.
You ?

 

[meech008]

Yes, thanks, but up early to do some stuff.
All good though.
You ?

I had a good night. Slept very soundly with a snoring hound by my side. Have you ever visited the states? Off the wall question I know

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I had a good night. Slept very soundly with a snoring hound by my side. Have you ever visited the states? Off the wall question I know

Not at all and not at all.
No, I haven't.
I've been to every country in Europe, a lot of Asia, half of Africa but never visited the American super'continent at all.
Want to go very much, but never quite got round to it.
You visited many places ?

 

[johnandjade]

what did the frog say in the library???

redit.... redit :/

 

[meech008]

Not at all and not at all.
No, I haven't.
I've been to every country in Europe, a lot of Asia, half of Africa but never visited the American super'continent at all.
Want to go very much, but never quite got round to it.
You visited many places ?

It'd be neat if you did visit. I live in one of the biggest tourist capitals haha. A lot of people think poorly of America but, we have a rich history over by me. I've been to Canada and most of the states in America but nowhere else :-( I love to travel but it can be expensive and we sadly just can't afford it right now. We haven't even had a honeymoon yet. I want to go to Ireland.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

It'd be neat if you did visit. I live in one of the biggest tourist capitals haha. A lot of people think poorly of America but, we have a rich history over by me. I've been to Canada and most of the states in America but nowhere else :-( I love to travel but it can be expensive and we sadly just can't afford it right now. We haven't even had a honeymoon yet. I want to go to Ireland.

Ireland's a fantastic place, very beautiful with friendly people and lots of good pubs and bars!
But a bit cold and wet sometimes.
i guess that's part of the problem with living in the States, it's such a huge country and apart from Canada and Mexico (for those in the north and south, respectively) very difficult and expensive to get to. Europe, Africa and Asia are all sort of interconnected, so one can often travel more cheaply by car, rail or boat and there are often very small countries all in a group.
But The States themselves are very varied, almost like other countries sometimes, am i right ?

 

[meech008]

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But The States themselves are very varied, almost like other countries sometimes, am i right ?

They are! It's very interesting to see the differences in the states. East coast and West coast of the country are different, just like central states are different than states that are stationed in the water. Just in my personal opinion. The industries are different. Fascinating when you think about it.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

They are! It's very interesting to see the differences in the states. East coast and West coast of the country are different, just like central states are different than states that are stationed in the water. Just in my personal opinion. The industries are different. Fascinating when you think about it.

It is.
And there is some interesting history, not to mention tremendous landscapes and the native animals and plants.
And for me lots of excellent places to collect fossils and encounter tortoises and turtles we don't get elsewhere.

 

[meech008]

I have a dilemma. A friend of mine ok facebook that I haven't talked to I a few months has found what I think is an eastern box turtle in her yard and decided to keep it. She's posted a picture of it asking for advice on how to keep it and received terrible advice (such as filling a tank full of water and dropping it in). I quickly corrected that and linked her to the forum but I'm not sure of a polite way to tell her to let it go. I'm pretty sure it's a female and I don't know anything about breeding habits but I looked online and it says they're endangered in VA. Here are some pictures

 

[johnsonnboswell]

I have a dilemma. A friend of mine ok facebook that I haven't talked to I a few months has found what I think is an eastern box turtle in her yard and decided to keep it. She's posted a picture of it asking for advice on how to keep it and received terrible advice (such as filling a tank full of water and dropping it in). I quickly corrected that and linked her to the forum but I'm not sure of a polite way to tell her to let it go. I'm pretty sure it's a female and I don't know anything about breeding habits but I looked online and it says they're endangered in VA. Here are some pictures

If you're concerned about being polite, you'll do fine. Edit heavily & proofread before you send. And don't do it in public or say anything to shame her, certainly not to start.

I often start by saying how lucky it is to live in a place that still has a native population. How taking a single turtle from the wild affects the future population and removes large numbers of generations. How they don't transition to captivity and often die within the first year. How it's possible that the same wild turtle will show up every year. That I won't get into the legality of it because it's the point of the law - to protect turtles - that matters. That turtles are attractive and wonderful, and it's hard to let them go, but the right thing to do. Then point her to a place she can adopt an unreleasable captive turtle, or just say they exist and need care while this one needs to stay in the wild.

Hth

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I can't tell if it's a male or female and I would agree with your guess that it's an Eastern Box turtle, but again, I'm not very knowledgeable on American species or laws.
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/permits/guide.asp
And see the much better answer just posted above.
It is a very beautiful animal that needs to go home, in my opinion.

 

[meech008]

Thank you both!