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AZtortMom

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Good mornooning all!

My Moderator forum is ominously quiet... actually I think both sides have decided to agree our politics is a mess and a ceasefire exists. Hopefully it will continue


I have yoga this morning so I had better go eat my breakfast.

Have a good day all :)

You too [emoji851]
 

Reptilony

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I guess we're not allowed to discuss politics, but if you check the news, almost anything about Turkey, you'll know. ;)
I don't speak Danish or French, unfortunately. Only English, Turkish, and Russian.

Ok no politics then! Still very impressive they are so different, especially russian, where are you born?
 

Bee62

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Thanks Sabine... He’s pretty resilient . How have you been? What’s been keeping you away so much? Everything ok? How are Ma & Mo & the sullies, and the rescue dog?
Hi Heather. I am fine although I am still struggeling with shingles. That seems to be a never ending story... But I don`t want to complain. My pets are fine. Ma & Mo and the sullies are growing well and the greek dog will get soon a companion ( another young greek dog puppy ). Much work with my animals and in and around the house kept me away.:(
 

JoesMum

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Ok im just wondering why do you want to quit the rest of Europe? You don’t want your taxes to go in Greece? Im jk lol, I have no idea what this is all about. I know my place wanted to separate itself a couple times but it was for identity reasons, and that’s totally unrelated...

We aren’t allowed to discuss politics in TFO so I will simply give a history and leave it at that.

Back in the 1970s the UK joined what was then known as the Common Market. A trading coalition between European countries.

The Common Market has since expanded, became the European Union, and got a Parliament to which each country elects representatives. This sets standards and laws that apply to all countries in the EU.

Our parliament has to adopt these laws into our nation’s laws... except where we can opt out (Opt out example, the UK never adopted the Euro as currency)

Some people dislike the increasing power of the EU and fear it will turn into the United States of Europe.

Some people like that it makes things like travel and trade so easy.

A few years ago, anti EU feeling was rising and the then Prime Minister said he would have a referendum on staying in the EU if his party won the next General Election. They did and we had a referendum.

The arguments got really nasty and by the narrowest of majorities the vote was to leave. The Prime Minister resigned and Theresa May became PM.

BUT... the referendum vote wasn’t legally binding and both sides told porkies about what would happen if we left.

Anyway, 8 months after the referendum our new PM decided to formally start the clock ticking on leaving and we had two years to negotiate a deal. That two years is up tomorrow.

A deal took a lot of thrashing out because neither our government or the EU had been expecting us to leave. And the deal was only settled a few weeks ago.

The problem is that the deal only goes through if there’s a majority in our Parliament in favour... and there isn’t.

The EU gave us an extension until April 11 to agree on something. And our Parliament has been bickering ever since.

Most of the UK population is thoroughly sick of it. Some are adamant we shouldn’t leave at all, some that we should just leave without a deal... and some think we have to have a deal because it would be damaging to the economy if we don’t.

Everyone agrees our government has messed up! Nobody seems to have a solution
 

Reptilony

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We aren’t allowed to discuss politics in TFO so I will simply give an outline and leave it at that.

Back in the 1970s the UK joined what was then known as the Common Market. A trading coalition between European countries.

The Common Market has since expanded, became the European Union, and got a Parliament to which each country elects representatives. This sets standards and laws that apply to all countries in the EU.

Our parliament has to adopt these laws into our nation’s laws... except where we can opt out (Opt out example, the UK never adopted the Euro as currency)

Some people dislike the increasing power of the EU and fear it will turn into the United States of Europe.

Some people like that it makes, travel and trade so easy.

A few years ago, anti EU feeling was rising and the then Prime Minister said he would have a referendum on staying in the EU if his party won the next General Election. They did and we had a referendum.

The arguments got really nasty and by the narrowest of majorities the vote was to leave. The Prime Minister resigned and Theresa May became PM.

BUT... the referendum vote wasn’t legally binding and both sides told porkies about what would happen if we left.

Anyway, 8 months after the referendum our new PM decided to formally start the clock ticking on leaving and we had two years to negotiate a deal. That two years is up tomorrow.

A deal took a lot of thrashing out because neither our government or the EU had been expecting us to leave. And the deal was only settled a few weeks ago.

The problem is that the deal only goes through if there’s a majority in our Parliament in favour... and there isn’t.

The EU gave us an extension until April 11 to agree on something. And our Parliament has been bickering ever since.

Most of the UK population is thoroughly sick of it. Some are adamant we shouldn’t leave at all, some that we should just leave without a deal... and some think we have to have a deal because it would be damaging to the economy if we don’t.

Everyone agrees our government has messed up! Nobody seems to have a solution

Thank you for this clear explanation! Ok I won’t talk about politics! -My mom : « if you and your brother can’t agree you’ll both have nothing! » ; )
 

Yvonne G

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I got a VERY early start to my day today. I was sleeping soundly when the phone rang (my phone is on the other side of the room from my bed). So I tossed back the covers, pulled myself up out of bed and traipsed across the room to answer the phone, "Hello?" "Oh, I'm sorry. . . I didn't mean to call you." I hung up and went back to bed. But I lay there pondering the phone call. The caller I.D. showed a familiar area code, 469, which I know to be Texas. I have a son and his family in Texas, but they are travelling and are now in Oregon. I communicate with my son through email, so his phone number is not committed to memory. I lay there wide awake wondering if it was him. Sort of sounded like him. I was half asleep, so really couldn't recognize his voice. Finally I got up and went out to the computer room to look him up in my address book, and, sure enough, it was him that called. So now I'm worried about why he called me at zero dark thirty in the morning. Even though he and his family are still on Texas time (two hours ahead of me), they're in Oregon, so it would be 4a for him as it was for me. Are they having car trouble? Are they broken down on the side of the road? All sorts of bad things are going through my mind. It's now three hours later and I haven't heard from him, so I don't know what's going on,

At any rate, I couldn't go back to sleep, so I got up and checked out all Josh's forums for spammers, took care of my moderator duties here then got the tortoise food ready.

I'm all finished with my morning chores and ready to go run errands. This is the earliest I've ever gone shopping. Thankfully, the stores I shop at all open before 9a.

When it gets to be about 2p, I know I'm going to crash.
 

JoesMum

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I got a VERY early start to my day today. I was sleeping soundly when the phone rang (my phone is on the other side of the room from my bed). So I tossed back the covers, pulled myself up out of bed and traipsed across the room to answer the phone, "Hello?" "Oh, I'm sorry. . . I didn't mean to call you." I hung up and went back to bed. But I lay there pondering the phone call. The caller I.D. showed a familiar area code, 469, which I know to be Texas. I have a son and his family in Texas, but they are travelling and are now in Oregon. I communicate with my son through email, so his phone number is not committed to memory. I lay there wide awake wondering if it was him. Sort of sounded like him. I was half asleep, so really couldn't recognize his voice. Finally I got up and went out to the computer room to look him up in my address book, and, sure enough, it was him that called. So now I'm worried about why he called me at zero dark thirty in the morning. Even though he and his family are still on Texas time (two hours ahead of me), they're in Oregon, so it would be 4a for him as it was for me. Are they having car trouble? Are they broken down on the side of the road? All sorts of bad things are going through my mind. It's now three hours later and I haven't heard from him, so I don't know what's going on,

At any rate, I couldn't go back to sleep, so I got up and checked out all Josh's forums for spammers, took care of my moderator duties here then got the tortoise food ready.

I'm all finished with my morning chores and ready to go run errands. This is the earliest I've ever gone shopping. Thankfully, the stores I shop at all open before 9a.

When it gets to be about 2p, I know I'm going to crash.

More than likely he had to get up early to do something and dialled you number on auto pilot rather than the one he meant to. I have done it myself. :D

Nothing to worry about at all and it probably hasn’t crossed his mind that it would worry you.
 
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