sir prince
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Ok let me have it good and bad. Recently I was making home made pot pies I gave sir Prince some of the cooked veggies cooled down of course he seemed to love them. Give me your opinions
Depends on which veggies.Ok let me have it good and bad. Recently I was making home made pot pies I gave sir Prince some of the cooked veggies cooled down of course he seemed to love them. Give me your opinions
It was mostly green beans cause I hand fed. I steamed a small amount of cauliflower & broccoli today. He didn't touch ate the raw leafy veggie blend always available to him. Guess they know best. Silly torts ❤Depends on which veggies.
Carrots are too high in sugar, but a small amount once in a while is okay.
Peas are high in protein, but again, small amount once in a while can be good for them. Just make sure the tortoise is well hydrated with a higher protein intake.
What other veggies did you offer?
Beans are high in protein and shouldn’t be fed. The leaves of the plant are OK
http://www.thetortoisetable.org.uk/plant-database/viewplants/?plant=494&c=8#.WfGTBzPTWEc
Broccoli and Cauliflower shouldn’t be fed.
http://www.thetortoisetable.org.uk/plant-database/viewplants/?plant=623&c=8#.WfGTMTPTWEc
Keep those for the humans.
Check foods for suitability by searching in the Tortoise Table Plant Database
http://www.thetortoisetable.org.uk/
Prince has veggie leafs everywhere I grow my own where he has access I cut up raw veggies daily he eats if he wants. I think he only ate the cooked veggies because I was hand feeding it one time. As for soaking I do that daily and he has a pond if he chooses to use. Thankyou all for the advice..Just for the sake of conversation…
In years past, we all were told that protein was the cause of pyramiding. Protein became vilified to the point where some tortoises were becoming protein deficient. Richard Fife tells a great story of a time when he was doing a feeding trial for a company with a prepared food. All was going well for months, then one day all the tortoises on the prepared food started crashing and he couldn't see why. He called the company to ask. Apparently, they had brought in a "focus group" of tortoise keepers, and all of them said they would never feed that prepared food because it had a protein level of 11-12% and all these tortoise owners felt that was much too high. So the food company reformulated to bring protein level down to 4% and the customer tortoise owners all thought it was much better that way. Unfortunately, by following customer emotions instead of scientific fact, the new low protein formulation of tortoise food was unable to sustain tortoise life. Necropsy revealed protein deficiency in the test subjects. Richard was able to save most of them by switched to Mazuri which has a "high" protein level of 15%. Protein is not the enemy. Our tortoises need protein to survive and thrive. Its all a question of how much and how often, and how well hydrated they are. They need good hydration with a higher protein intake. The old routine of soaking once a week, or never, and living in a dry ultra low humidity enclosure would not be good for a tortoise eating 15% protein food items. In the new routine of daily soaks for babies and frequent soaks for adults, coupled with damp substrate and moderate to high humidity, some plant protein in the diet serves them very well. I don't think we should be feeding a hill of beans every day, but some occasional peas, beans, or alfalfa is actually very good for them.
Similarly, I think broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, chard, bok choy, carrot, yam, bell pepper, mushrooms, squash and other similar items are fine to feed once in a while. Just not large amounts on a daily basis.
So Sir Prince, some of that stuff once in a while is okay, but make sure your tortoise is well hydrated with frequent soaks, and make sure that the majority of the diet is comprised of the right stuff like broadleaf weeds, leaves and other good stuff.
Prince has veggie leafs everywhere I grow my own where he has access I cut up raw veggies daily he eats if he wants. I think he only ate the cooked veggies because I was hand feeding it one time. As for soaking I do that daily and he has a pond if he chooses to use. Thankyou all for the advice..
Prince is a Russian tortoise. Cut veggies yes I mean store bought cauliflower, broccoli and occasionally cucumber he does not like carrots. I grow wild flowers like some mentioned, and vegetables just for leafs. He likes kale, romain and spinach to mention a few.
Also no mention of his pics? I tell him how handsome he is all the time. LolOh no problem not upset that's what a forum is. I do have the pellets but I have not been able to get him to eat them. I have no problem looking for the hays.