Difference between GPP and SPP

[mikeh]

What is the difference between the two?

Also I noticed some GPP or SPP have very flared marginal scutes and others do not. Can anyone elaborate on this?

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[Neal]

http://www.tortoiseforum.org/thread-27409.html

Here you go. I have seen marginal flaring on some babcocki, but it is not as pronounced as it is on the South African variety.

The above thread focuses primarily on physical differences. I personally have not seen any differences in terms of personality, overall behavior, or hardiness in my groups. But, other people have had different experiences and it's worth a consideration since they are often discussed when this topic comes up.

 

[Tom]

http://www.tortoiseforum.org/thread-27409.html

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D'oh!

Neal beat me to it.

 

[mikeh]

I wasn't referring to Bobcocki. Member torts"R"Us refers to his GPP as SPP.

Also was asking about some GPP having very flared marginal scute while others flow more down.

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Both cases of marginal scutes refering to GPP, not Bobcocki.

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[Yvonne G]

The genus used to be geochelone, but has since been changed to stigmochelys. They are both the same animal, just an old name and a new name.

 

[Tom]

Geochelone pardalis pardalis is the old name. Stigmochelys pardalis pardalis is the new name. I don't like the new name and see no reason to change it, so out of childish defiance, I continue to use the old name.

Now I'll have to go look at mine to see what the marginal scutes are doing...

 

[Levi the Leopard]

GPP used to be the name. The G stood for geo....something something. (I'm not at my PC or I'd do a quick google search to give you direct answers).

The name was recently changed to something that starts with an S thus calling them S.. pardalis pardalis or SPP.

I've heard Tom joke that he has called them GPP for years and isn't going to switch to calling SPP cuz someone in an office decided to change the name lol.

Long sorry short, they are the same. Old name vs new name. Make sense even though I don't remember the whole word??



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[Neal]

Why they changed it, I can't say. Maybe people just liked it better that way

 

[mikeh]

Re: RE: Difference between GPP and SPP

The genus used to be geochelone, but has since been changed to stigmochelys. They are both the same animal, just an old name and a new name.

Thanks for clarifying Yvonne. My other question then would be if you don't mind, 100% het for Sunset hypo. What does het mean and what is Sunset hypo?

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[BeeBee*BeeLeaves]

GPP is what I like also and the S one is some bored scientist decided and I too decided the old Geochelone is better. Neener neener tortoise namer person.

 

[yagyujubei]

There is not just one universal taxonomic organization. Leopard tortoises are currently recognized as :
Testudo Pardalis
Geochelone Pardalis
Stigmochelys Pardalis
Psammobates Pardalis Among others, depending who you ask.

 

[GeoGpp1012]

The genus used to be geochelone, but has since been changed to stigmochelys. They are both the same animal, just an old name and a new name.

Thanks for clarifying Yvonne. My other question then would be if you don't mind, 100% het for Sunset hypo. What does het mean and what is Sunset hypo?

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Great question mikeh I was also wondering what this meant

 

[Baoh]

Why they changed it, I can't say. Maybe people just liked it better that way

So take me back to Constantinople.

 

[jaizei]

The genus used to be geochelone, but has since been changed to stigmochelys. They are both the same animal, just an old name and a new name.

Thanks for clarifying Yvonne. My other question then would be if you don't mind, 100% het for Sunset hypo. What does het mean and what is Sunset hypo?

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Sunset hypo refers to a specific coloration. 100% het means that the animal has a 100% chance of carrying the gene for the trait (one of the parents is a sunset hypo).

 

[AnnV]

Ohhh, so het stands for heterozygous!!!
Got it now. I had no clue either!
Apparently a recessive trait.

Ann from CT

 

[BeeBee*BeeLeaves]

There is not just one universal taxonomic organization. Leopard tortoises are currently recognized as :
Testudo Pardalis
Geochelone Pardalis
Stigmochelys Pardalis
Psammobates Pardalis Among others, depending who you ask.

Testudo? Oh good God NOOOOO! As if I was not confused enough with Testudo as it pertains to Greek tortoises! : 0