Eastern box turtles in Pa

[Reptileguy1741]

Hey. I'm new to this forum and and don't have any tortoises yet but im hoping to get an Eastern Box Turtle soon if they're legal. Does anyone know if captive bred Eastern Box Turtles are legal to own in Pa?

 

[lisa127]

I'm not sure how it works in PA. They are native to your area. Here in Ohio it is legal to keep them only if we apply for a permit.

 

[Maro2Bear]

Check out the Pennsylvania Game Commission web site. I'm pretty sure thats where you will find the info that you seek.

Try this URL, I Think it has the info that you need http://www.fish.state.pa.us/fishpub/summary/repamp.html

 

[Reptileguy1741]

So I guess this means no?

 

[Maro2Bear]

I would give them a call and ask specifically about captive bred vs wild caught. I'm sure the ruling posted means illegal to posess any WC Easterns.

 

[HermanniChris]

For PA, it's unfortunately a firm NO. Anything native to the state is. Same as NY except NY will allow certain permits unlike PA.

 

[Reptileguy1741]

Thanks for all the replies. So would hybrids or or not native box turtles be ok I like the three toed and orantes also.

 

[Maro2Bear]

For PA, it's unfortunately a firm NO. Anything native to the state is. Same as NY except NY will allow certain permits unlike PA.

Thanks Chris, that's what I thought but didnt want to throw out my suspicion on PA. Thanks as well for firming this up.

 

[HermanniChris]

No problem guys. PA allows all other subspecies of North American box turtles which includes T. c. bauri, T. c. major, T. c. triunguis, T. o. ornata and T. o. luteola. It's the Eastern box (T. c. carolina) that is completely outlawed.

NY on the other hand is different. They say NO to any subspecies of the Eastern box so this means no to T. c. bauri, T. c. major, T. c. triunguis and of course T. c. carolina. And the reason for this is because they find it too difficult to differentiate the subspecies. Recent taxonomic results may allude to some of these subspecies (T. c. bauri for example) to be elevated to the rank of full species. This may mean that some laws need to change in certain states like NY and NH which is long over due in my humble opinion.

 

[CharlieM]

Cuora Flavomarginata (Chinese box turtle) would be legal.
Also, I DON'T recommend this but there are a few people breeding ornate x Florida hybrids that can be shipped.

 

[Obdigital]

No problem guys. PA allows all other subspecies of North American box turtles which includes T. c. bauri, T. c. major, T. c. triunguis, T. o. ornata and T. o. luteola. It's the Eastern box (T. c. carolina) that is completely outlawed.

NY on the other hand is different. They say NO to any subspecies of the Eastern box so this means no to T. c. bauri, T. c. major, T. c. triunguis and of course T. c. carolina. And the reason for this is because they find it too difficult to differentiate the subspecies. Recent taxonomic results may allude to some of these subspecies (T. c. bauri for example) to be elevated to the rank of full species. This may mean that some laws need to change in certain states like NY and NH which is long over due in my humble opinion.

I was recommended to check with you as I am looking to buy a few Box turtles. Do you sell boxies ?