Hermann eastern or Western

[Eadie]

Would anyone be able to tell me which kind of hermanns I have please on his papers it just states Macedonia (not sure if these pics are enough to tell )
Thanks

 

[Eadie]

Can anyone help please

 

[JoFisch]

Thread 'The Hermann’s Tortoises'
https://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/the-hermann’s-tortoises.189789/
I wouldn’t know the best way to determine the subspecies but here is a video that is supposed to help with this. I found this under The species forum for Mediterranean Species and then Hermanns Tortoises

 

[TeamZissou]

What you have is a dalmatian Hermann's tortoise, Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis, though technically they have been grouped in with the eastern Hermann's tortoise Testudo hermanni boettgeri. Serious tortoise keepers tend to still recognize this as a separate subspecies and try to avoid breeding them with anything other than another dalmatian.

They have many distinctive features:

How to Identify Hermann's Tortoises

HOW TO IDENTIFY HERMANN'S TORTOISES This is a newly updated (2018) thread explaining how to tell apart the subspecies or "types" of Hermann's tortoise (Testudo hermanni ssp). Before reading on, it's crucial for you to understand that telling the Hermann's tortoises apart is not always easy. In...

tortoiseforum.org

 

[Eadie]

What you have is a dalmatian Hermann's tortoise, Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis, though technically they have been grouped in with the eastern Hermann's tortoise Testudo hermanni boettgeri. Serious tortoise keepers tend to still recognize this as a separate subspecies and try to avoid breeding them with anything other than another dalmatian.

They have many distinctive features:

How to Identify Hermann's Tortoises

HOW TO IDENTIFY HERMANN'S TORTOISES This is a newly updated (2018) thread explaining how to tell apart the subspecies or "types" of Hermann's tortoise (Testudo hermanni ssp). Before reading on, it's crucial for you to understand that telling the Hermann's tortoises apart is not always easy. In...

tortoiseforum.org

Thankyou so much I wasn't expecting that 😳🤣

 

[Eadie]

Thread 'The Hermann’s Tortoises'
https://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/the-hermann’s-tortoises.189789/
I wouldn’t know the best way to determine the subspecies but here is a video that is supposed to help with this. I found this under The species forum for Mediterranean Species and then Hermanns Tortoises

Thankyou jo 👍🏻