Western or eastern?

[Alec]

Guys, my friend just pass me a juvenile tortoise. Could anyone advise this is a western or eastern hermann or not a hermann at all. I am from south east asia the weather is hot and humid through out the year, do we need to hibernate the tortoise if it is a hermann? Thanks in advance. ✌

 

[Tom]

@HermanniChris will know.

Does it have the little gold patch on the cheek?

 

[HermanniChris]

It's actually a Dalmatian Hermann's (T. h. hercegovinensis). This is not considered a geographical variant of the eastern so this means yours is more like an eastern. Westerns are much, much different in color and overall appearance.

 

[Alec]

@HermanniChris will know.

Does it have the little gold patch on the cheek?

there is a faint yellowish patch, maybe too small to tell? about 1.5 inch. Thanks anyway

 

[Alec]

It's actually a Dalmatian Hermann's (T. h. hercegovinensis). This is not considered a geographical variant of the eastern so this means yours is more like an eastern. Westerns are much, much different in color and overall appearance.

wow! a Dalmatian Hermann, was hoping it was a Western Hermann
Does a juvenile Western Hermann or a hatchling appear in bright rich yellow?
Thanks for the info Tom, appreciate the help.

 

[HermanniChris]

Baby westerns are not always bright yellow at first but their markings are much different than this. Here is an example:

 

[Alec]

Baby westerns are not always bright yellow at first but their markings are much different than this. Here is an example:
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Nice western you have! Anyway be it a western, eastern or dalmatian, I have decided to adopt the tortoise and give it a nice home. Just finish setting up a enclosure for the little guy.