I don't have a sully but I've read someone turned their garage Into a indoor outside. They put a tarp down and a bunch of soil, plants, also had a warm hide.
klinej50 said:I don't have a sully but I've read someone turned their garage Into a indoor outside. They put a tarp down and a bunch of soil, plants, also had a warm hide.
klinej50 said:I have grass growing inside my leopard tortoises indoor enclosure. I put a seed mix in there I didn't think it would grow but to my surprise it actually grew a lot!
klinej50 said:Oh my torts are very small[SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES] and they don't know how lucky they are because I can't get them to eat any grass
ra94131 said:I think something multiple people in this thread need to keep in mind is that tortoises are not human. Overly anthropomorphizing them and projecting your own desires on them is detrimental to their best interests.
Quite frankly, a tortoise could care less if you love it. It could care less if it has company (aside from reproduction). It does not like being handled or being transported. It wants food, shelter, and ideal environmental conditions. If you provide those things, the tortoise will be some approximation of "happy".
Sometimes I think tortoises suffer for being such hardy animals. They can exist outside of their ideal conditions for much longer than most animals and far too often people take this as validation rather than changing things.
If you're looking for emotional connection, get a dog. Reptiles just do not have that capacity.
(I do not intend this to single out the OP, who does seem sincere in her desire to improve the life of her tortoise. These are things everyone should keep in mind.)
Wewt said:Jd3 said:Your landlord lets a tortoise pee and poop all over her townhouse... She isn't THAT particular. It sounds a lot more like YOU'RE particular and pretty set that this is going to work regardless of whether it is good for the tort or not.
You've posted obvious signs that it has had major problems but don't recognize them and refuse to recognize them after they've been spelled out for you.
Living in a space being peed and pooped on and spread around is disgusting and unhealthy. You've said he potties on his bed. Do you sterilize him every day too? It is being spread everywhere... Fecal matter here. Urine there!
You've got the pickiest landlord ever! Sooooo picky! She won't want dirt in the garage... But she's super ok with pee and poop on her floors and walls and fixtures!
You might not see it. But it is everywhere. You might have friends who think it is ok to bring their kids there, but they're idiots. That CRAP is in everything.
I don't care how much you steam your floors.
This appears to be more of an illness. This is the same way hoarders react. That they are offering a better solution than the worst case scenario. I see it at work all the time.
Again, you keep assuming things without ever coming into my house. You have no evidence of any of this. I've lived with my tortoise like this for two years now, and have never been sick. Nobody who has ever been in my house or handled my tortoise has ever been sick.
The only problem with my tortoise is that he is too small. I didn't know about this until a few days ago. Why? Because information about how big a tortoise should be is extremely difficult to get and is full of variables. I'm meeting with a reptile specialist within the next few days to talk about it and see what is going on.
About sterilizing the tortoise: he would be around his poop if he were in an outdoor enclosure, too. Every week when he gets his soak he is super-cleaned and scrubbed clean. He is never allowed to lay in his poo or pee, unless he does it in the middle of the night and I find it in the morning.
You are simply unsatisfiable, and having this conversation with you is exhausting. Nothing I do or say will ever be good enough unless I were to free him somewhere that was warm all the time, which is not going to happen.
Millerlite said:Why not just build a enclosure that has will help you keep the area warm. Instead of heating your whole house all the time you just need to heat the enclosure. Also you won't have to clean poop and pee of the carpet which is never fun. Tortoises like most reptiles are best in a controller environment , they are cooled blooded so they are the same temp. As their environment? So when your all nice and cozy under blankets, his body is dropping to those low levels. Reptile specialist will def. help you maybe even show you what you can do to make this animals life a little better.
samsmom said:Does that mean you just "clean" with plain water?