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speedydougkerri

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Hello, we just joined this forum and we were looking for some advice on the habitat, diet, and health of ourtortoise. We have a female Redfooted tortoise. Her name is Speedy. She is approximately 6 years old but we got her when she was already 3 years old.

Her current enclosure is in a large aquarium with a plexiglass cover. She has a hide in one corner, water and food dish, and UVB, and heat lamp in the other corner. With substrate deep enough for her to dig in covering the bottom. However the aquarium is falling apart. We are looking to invest a decent amount of money into a new habitat but are not sure what is the greatest route to take. We have thought of building her one out of wood, or converting a peice of furniture into a home for her. Any suggestions? We are constantly having problems with humidity. Although we spray the aquarium down with warm water a few times every day the humidity does not stay high enough. I used to have a fog machine but it didn't work the greatest either. Since she does get dry, we have some conditioning lotion which I bought from a pet store that we put on her skin and shell every once and a while.

When we first bought Speedy from a pet store they told us that the only thing that she would eat was spring mix. We learned later on when our tortoise started pyramiding that this was not a good idea. We now feed her mostly greens (beets, dandelion etc.) and lots of fruit (strawberries, rasberries, grapes, blueberries, honey dew, cantelope, mango, watermelon, honey dew, apples, peaces, nectarines, banana). We have Exo-terra adult tortoise pellets which we give her once every few weeks for protein. We also put calcium with vitamin D powder on her food however she doesn't seem to like it. We can only put very little on her food or she will not eat her food at all. She also gets a cuttle bone every once in a while for her beak.

The pyramidding has seemed to have stopped but we are still worried about it. Is there anything else that we can do to prevent pyramidding from happening or to reverse the pyramidding? Also we noticed earlier today a weird peice of discoloured skin on the upper part of her eye which looked kind of gooey. I was worried that she had an eye infection but a few minutes later I looked again and it was gone?

I have attatched a few pictures of my tortoise and my enclosure for everyone to check out and give opinions on.

~Kerri, Doug, and Speedy


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Yvonne G

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Hi Kerri:

Welcome to the forum!

We have some great redfoot ideas here on the forum. Just take your time and look through the redfoot section.

I don't keep redfoot tortoises, so I can't offer you any advice, except to say that I think your tub is a bit small for the size of your tortoise.

Here's one thread that I think you will find informative:

http://tortoiseforum.org/Thread-Here-s-Dales-new-enclosure-picture-heavy
 

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Hi and welcome!

OK, it sounds like you have a classic case of a mixture of old, inaccurate, confusing, or plain inaccurate information that so many of us have had to fight with. Let me offer you some options for good information to try:

- https://sites.google.com/site/tortoiselibrary/red-foots/red-foot-care . OK, to be fair, this is my site and my article, but I have run it past several people I respect and think it is a good starting point. I have some other articles on the site I am working on that may also help- but most of the rest are still in progress.
- Mike Pingleton, 'The Redfoot Manual'. Great book on Red-foot care I think most keepers would benefit from, and one of the cheaper books on the topic.
- http://www.redfoots.com is one that is often referenced on the site- a simple beginners program, especially for smaller torts.
- http://www.redfootedtortoise.com
- http://www.tortoisetrust.org
and more. This site is also great to help with questions.

Now, for some specific advice.

HOUSING. How big is your tort? A good home size is 8 shell lengths x 4 shell lengths. If it is 6" long, that would be 4'x2'. This size (whatever it is for your tort) may dictate the kind of habitat. It is hard to find a 4'x2' tub or tank, so it may need to be a built tortoise table.

HUMIDITY. This is tough for a lot of us, especially those of us in cooler/drier climates. You have a lot of options- partially covering the tank, live plants, bottom heating with a moister bottom substrate layer, etc. There are several threads about this here. Humidity is not the only part of this- you also need to keep the tortoise hydrated.

DIET. You can cut back on the fruit- they enjoy fruit and get a lot of nutrients from it, but really don't need a lot in captivity. About 20% a week is enough. Giving a lot of fruit is not a big problem, but it is a lot of sugar.

Pyramiding does not have to do with diet as much as it does moisture/humidity/hydration. By the way- the eye infection- if it was watery eyes, that is often a sign of dehydration as well.

Calcium should be used in small doses, especially if there is any chance the tortoise is dehydrated. If you are using UVB lighting, then vitamin D3 in the calcium is a bit of overkill. You should also understand that cuttlebone is a source of calcium, but is not needed to hone the beak.

Once pyramiding starts, you cannot 'erase' it, but you can keep it from getting worse. It may even appear to fade in time as the shell grows better around it.

Please also understand that simple pyramiding is just cosmetic, not a medical issue. While it may seem like some people judge based on pyramiding, it is mostly just a gauge of humidification level-not automatically of health.

Good luck- hopefully this will help you get started, along with the other advice you will get here.
 

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I keep redfoots. I have a 3ft x 14ft enclosure in my livingroom. Keeping humidity up here in NM is a problem. I recently installed a Mister Moisture misting system. It will do up to 6 emitters. Thats how many I have. It covers my entire enclosure. It comes with a timer that automatically sprays up to 8 times a day. Mine runs 4 times a day for 5 minutes and the humidity is staying between 65 and 85%. I use cypress mixed with eco earth for my substrate. I purchased it from LLL Reptile thats the only place that I have found them. It comes as a kit. If you have any question about installing it feel free to ask me. Just thought I would give you the info as humidity was the hardest thing to regulate. Good Luck
 

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To increase the humidity try Mosser Lee Moss....can be purchased at kohls and it keeps my humidity pretty high when it is misted directly. Try misting the tort directly.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Your Redfoot is really beautiful.

You can get an old book case, turn it over and take out the shelves. Keep it partially covered with the plexiglass, and add lots of plants. Waterintg the plants will keep up the humidity.
 

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Hello and welcome! You can get alot of great info at www.turtletary. I love your redfoot, i also have two yearlings.Goodluck,tom.
 

speedydougkerri

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thanks everyone.. What types of live plants should I get? Also..not sure how to plant them since there is no soil or anything to plant them in Speedy's home?
 

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Hey Terry K,your"simple beginners program"seems to be working.ROTFLMAO
 
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