Mega-Enclosure for Sulcatas

Devious Rhesus

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Hello all!

I currently have four Sulcata tortoise babies, that are perfectly happy in their high-humidity, high-temp “sealed” habitat. They are all 55-75 grams, and are active eaters and look healthy as can be.

For the future, I am starting to work on concepts for outdoor enclosures. Our 116 acres is fully hog wired, and is an hour West of Houston. We have an old horse barn with multiple stalls which will be converted to heated housing for the tortoises when they are big enough. The weather here is pretty excellent for them - Hot and muggy, but plenty of shade and water!

The original idea was to make a smaller (still huge) enclosure connected to the horse barn to house them from year 1 until they are large enough to avoid predation and too large to fit through hog wire. At that point, we intended to let them loose.

The property has multiple lakes and streams, and tons of forage of different sorts. There are no other domestic animals. There are deer, raccoons, foxes, snakes, and occasionally a coyote digs under the hog wire for some reason. We have occasional bobcats, too. And hawks…

With this much real estate (call it 2,000’ by 2,500’), how likely is a Sulcata to excavate under our hog wire?

If escape attempts are likely, what can be done cheaply to secure so many linear feet of fencing?

What is the Sulcata’s normal tendency when raised in this manner? Do they tend to congregate around the source of treats and their warm home? Or do they go on walkabout forever?

Are they clever enough to come back to the heated barn when the weather dictates?

Of the predator risks mentioned, what size should we consider before any forays into the wider wilderness?

Ideally, if this works, it would be great to have a Sulcata retirement home for all the people who are surprised one day by their sheer size!

Thank you for your input. This forum has been immensely helpful in getting setup for these first few years of life. The unknown bit is pretty far out, but it’s fun to start planning!
 

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Keep in mind that they are VERY strong and are quite able to push under a wire fence that isn't set in cement.
 

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Hi!
You might find this thread useful:

Also, I think @EppsDynasty can share how they do the fencing.
 

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what size should we consider before any forays into the wider wilderness

While it's a nice idea, the answer might be never. A lot can happen on that much land. The fox might already be living in that henhouse. Its impossible to know all the plants growing in that much area.

I would use the barn as a hub and have separate 'paddocks' fenced off from that. The areas could grow with the tortoises, and be made more appropriate as needed along the way.

The link Alex posted also shows NorCal tortoise guy's barrel fence. That may be the cheapest way to build a fence as long as you're up for moving a lot of soil to fill the barrels. (And as long as your soil is reasonably easy to dig in). I've always been partial to CMU walls, they're relatively cheap and can also be filled with soil. But they're not as sturdy as the barrels.
 

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There’s some different fencing ideas in this thread too if you’re interested looking through🙂
 

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@Devious Rhesus ..... Hello my name is Dana and we house over a dozen large Sulcata Torts. You may look us up on YouTube, FaceBook or Instagram under our name Joshua Tree Reptile Haven. We use 2"x8"x8' 'Planks' fastened to 4"x4" wood post. We have noticed a few things housing animals that come from terrible living conditions and then get a chance at Life with us. Everyone told us that they would dig, that they would just 'Push' their way through whatever they wanted to get past and lots of other things that made us (Honestly) scared to house them in our area ... Fear they would escape and be lost in the wide open Desert we live in. All of what was told to us WAS true, they are giant Bulldozers and won't stop until they make their way over, through or around anything they wanted to. There was only one thing that stopped them .... LOVE and Safety. Let me explain. First Day: The 100 lb. Sulcata when put into the enclosure would walk around the perimeter looking for a way out. Testing areas all along the way looking for weaknesses. This attitude and activity is driven by fear. Day 15: This constant attempt to escape is starting to slow as the tort starts to understand that nothing in the enclosure is going to hurt them and actually starts to feel comfort in the enclosure as they now know 'what' their boundaries are. It usually takes about this long before they start to eat regularly and start to focus on food instead of escape. Day 30: The tort now is only walking for exercise not escape and enjoys what area they have and feel Safety in said area. Take that Sulcata out of that 'Comfort' Zone and place them in the yard and the Fear comes right back. Put them back in 'Their' enclosure and that all stops once they realize where they are.
That was a little longer than I wanted but I think you get the point. If you have 100 acres of space for them they will never know that Safety and Comfort phase of life with you. Now if you started out small and built say a 56'x56' area then a 96'x96' (multiples of 8) area allowing them to understand it's the same pen just a lot more room. Then say a 1 acre enclosed pen in the same area they then know where home is and still feel safe just have more room to explore.
I think if you shoot for the largest area right off the bat they will never feel secure and just want to keep moving until they find that. Could be they find that 5 miles from your place in a burrow they dig or a neighbors wood shed, ya get the idea. THEY WILL ESCAPE if they do not feel and KNOW they are safe.
We are always available to help as it is what we do and want to do, if you ever have any questions just ask and you will get answers here.
 

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