New lobatsiana!

[juli11]

My new ones

I get them yesterday at the Terraristika!!

 

[wellington]

RE: My new ones

Very nice. Congrats.

 

[mattgrizzlybear]

My new ones

Great looking! Congrats!

 

[diamondbp]

My new ones

Killer

 

[juli11]

My new ones

Thank. It was a long way to find them. The two ones are wc from the 6/13 kinixys lobatsiana .The other one is cb 1/13 chelenoidis chilensis ;-)

 

[juli11]

So here the new ones of my kinixys collection. They live since yesterday at me. They are 1,1 subadult. WC 5/13 northern southafrica. They male live in a 120x60 the female in 100x60cm. If somebody has lobatsiana too it would be very nice if you could tell me your experience.

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Some photos the twos live in the middle and in the left one.

 

[Kapidolo Farms]

I had some several years ago, their care is more or less the same as K. spekii. Humid hide in a dry-ish forest landscape, not so fully lighted and bright as for a leopard or sulcata. Diet omnivorous, like a Terrapene box turtle.

The larger one looks 100% like those I had before, the smaller one looks like spekii to me, but the image is not the best for me to see the animal.

Possible for a face photo? It would be good to see the face and the scales on top of the head.

Cool tortoises.

Will

 

[juli11]

Yes I can do a better photo when she comes out of her stash. I had my doubts too if it is lobatsiana. But I spoke with my colleague (he is also the man who sell them) and he say that lobatsiana is very difficult in their colors. He saw animals which was very orange and I animal which was very brown. So the most difference between lobatsiana and the is the altitude. Here I've got a ca. 5 years old spekii and the lobatiana. Later I will share some photos of the altitude of the shell. You can see lobatsiana is higher than spekii. Also you say that the male is 100% lobatsiana and the two ones came from the same region.

 

[mainey34]

Congratulations on your new additions!

 

[juli11]

Thanks . So here the first pic of the subadult spekii the lobatsiana female doesn't want to come out so I have to wait -.-.

 

[juli11]

here the lobatsiana female.

 

[Kapidolo Farms]

Well, the attached document is why I asked about the head, face shot, along with other tools, sorting out the species becomes less difficult, to easy.

Again, "along with other tools".

Will

View attachment Preview of “Print”.pdf

 

[tortadise]

Cool. Love these guys. Nice chilensis too.

 

[juli11]

Ok sorry I forgot that..
But at the moment she is so shy so I have to wait...

 

[juli11]

Sooo now! I get the photos!

 

[Kapidolo Farms]

This is another tool, comparative images . . .

http://vmus.adu.org.za/vm_view_db.php

I see better now the differences.

Will

 

[tortadise]

The lobatse do have a thicker posterior. The easy way to tell is the flanking marginal scutes are somewhat serrated where as speks are not. It is more difficult to distinguish as juvenile sizes such that you have. Color can play a roll too. But I do have to say I have 3 juvenile speks that are very similar to the one you showed photos of

 

[juli11]

Yes but look my juvenile spekii female look not like the lobatsiana
Maybe you can't see it so good but the spekii is flatter.