nicoleann2214
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Have you guys ever heard of a redcata? I didn’t know it was a thing til now it’s a sulcata and red foot breed mixed. Really different.. ?
Redcata?
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Srmcclure
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Thats so sad!!!! How do you know what its body needs at that point??? Do I feed grass? Fruit? Chicken? ?
Visually I'm sure its really pretty, but no!
nicoleann2214
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Ik, it’s crazy!
Srmcclure
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Do you have an example pic? I tried to Google it and i saw a leopardfoot haha. It was definitely interesting...
nicoleann2214
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Srmcclure
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So weird....
nicoleann2214
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I know and the one has two heads. It’s on an Instagram page.
Srmcclure
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I dont think those live long....
Maybe once in a while, but i heard animals like that tend to have all kinds of weird things going on inside.
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It's heartbreaking to see mixes like this. The diet problem is bad enough, but soon you won't be able to find a full blooded, pure leopard or sulcata.
Man fools with a lot of stuff that he really needs to leave alone. ??
Man fools with a lot of stuff that he really needs to leave alone. ??
nicoleann2214
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I’d believe it!
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I normally don’t sign on to Facebook but I stumbled across the hybrid tortoise group that this picture was posted on. Like gawking at a train wreck I had to go look at all the pictures.
These are probably the only hybrids that I find visually attractive, but I share the ethical concerns. There might be an ethical path to create hybrid “domesticated” tortoises but humanity can’t be trusted to follow it. Even if a breeder making hybrids is careful (e.g. avoids spreading diseases or polluting gene pools), the existence of these hybrids enables others who are not so ethical.
These are probably the only hybrids that I find visually attractive, but I share the ethical concerns. There might be an ethical path to create hybrid “domesticated” tortoises but humanity can’t be trusted to follow it. Even if a breeder making hybrids is careful (e.g. avoids spreading diseases or polluting gene pools), the existence of these hybrids enables others who are not so ethical.
I'd hate to see tortoises go the way of the bearded dragon or various geckos where it seems like with all the fancy morphs you just don't see many normals.
qiangzhu
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I only heard about mix breed of leopard and sulcata
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And does anyone know if these hybrid tortoises are sterile like mules (a cross between a horse and a donkey)? Personally, I hope they are.
qiangzhu
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I think they should be like mule or liger or tigon. They will not be that unhealthy or have short life but they may not be able to breed next generation.
I do see pictures of very large (at least 10 inches) sulcata-leopard hybrid tortoises before
Srmcclure
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See! Thats nature saying you f'd up! No more!
EllyMae
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That would depend on the number of chromosomes. To make sexually viable offspring, it comes down to the number of chromosomes. Horses have 64. Donkeys have 62. Mules and Hinnys have 63.
Animals that have an odd number of chromosomes are usually sterile because their chromosomes can’t be divided evenly during meiosis.
Does anyone know the number of chromosomes in Sulcatas or Redfoots?
I was researching the number of chromosomes in various tortoises and not finding the answer I was looking for when I found this rather fascinating article and I thought I’d post it even though it isn’t quite on topic. https://dnascience.plos.org/2018/12...nt-lonesome-george-leaves-clues-to-longevity/
Giant tortoise genomes provide insights into longevity and age-related disease - Nature Ecology & Evolution
The genomes of two long-lived giant tortoises, including Lonesome George, reveal candidate genes and pathways associated with their development, gigantism and longevity.
www.nature.com
