Redfoot price range.

[Redstrike]

That really is a nice pair. Their shells are beautifully smooth. Do you know if they were captive raised or wild caught? If captive, they look well cared for and are worth $400-600 in my book.

 

[Anyfoot]

That really is a nice pair. Their shells are beautifully smooth. Do you know if they were captive raised or wild caught? If captive, they look well cared for and are worth $400-600 in my book.

I'll ask the question to be sure, but I'm certain they are WC. You can see where the male has grown in captivity with the new growth being lower down. If anyone out there can grow a captive bred tort from the EGG as good as this female then we need to know how they were cared for . .

 

[Anyfoot]

Just as I thought, the history is BS.
This guy has had them 7 yrs now, he got them off a friend who owned a pet shop and the shop owner said he raised them from young, they are now supposedly 15yrs old, and when this owner 1st saw them 7 yrs ago they were already this size.

My version from looking at them, they are both wild caught as adults and only the male has grown since. The female doesn't look to have any captive growth at all.

BTW, these 2 are kept in a 2x6ft enclosure most of the year . Wish I had the space for them.

 

[Pearly]

Gets---or asks. I don't many hypos selling here in the US for the prices I see them advertised for. I think a lot of the breeders have pie-in-the-sky expectations.

Yeah, I did inquire about one while back when I was brand new to the hobby and to me hypo meant just a shell color and nothing else (ie no big deal...) and my jaw dropped when I heard the price... I was wondering what was making them so much more expensive but I should probably start a separate thread for that to get some feedback. Sorry Craig, didn't mean to go off on a bunny trail here. This RF pair is very pretty indeed. Do you really think they did most of their growing in the wild??? They just seem so.... perfect, not a scratch, no dent, no chip... I don't know... but then I haven't seen that many RF WC nor CB, you guys are my "know what/when/how" in my tort keeping so I will just listen in to you talk

 

[Anyfoot]

Talk about anything in my threads, I don't mind.
I think they are wild caught as adults. If not then somebody knows the secret to growing them to look wild and is not telling us.lol.

 

[Pearly]

Talk about anything in my threads, I don't mind.
I think they are wild caught as adults. If not then somebody knows the secret to growing them to look wild and is not telling us.lol.

Ok! So WHAT really IS IT ??!!!! that makes those hypos so expensive???!!! I would understand double the price of a cherry, but 1700-2K???!!!! That's insane!!! Is it really that costly to breed them? If so, what component of it is so pricey? I am just curious.

 

[Anyfoot]

Ok! So WHAT really IS IT ??!!!! that makes those hypos so expensive???!!! I would understand double the price of a cherry, but 1700-2K???!!!! That's insane!!! Is it really that costly to breed them? If so, what component of it is so pricey? I am just curious.

Supply and demand dictates price with everything in life.

 

[Pearly]

Supply and demand dictates price with everything in life.

I guess....

 

[xirxes]

Hypo is a term referring to the sought after genetic trait that is heritable. Like with all reptiles, a phenotypic hypo, bred with another phenotypic hypo will produce 100% hypo offspring. This will recoup all of your investment as a breeding project, with heavy profit. You will then be selling 5-20 at 15-1700 ea yourself theoretically.

This is why the prices are high.

 

[Pearly]

Hypo is a term referring to the sought after genetic trait that is heritable. Like with all reptiles, a phenotypic hypo, bred with another phenotypic hypo will produce 100% hypo offspring. This will recoup all of your investment as a breeding project, with heavy profit. You will then be selling 5-20 at 15-1700 ea yourself theoretically.

This is why the prices are high.

Yes I get it, only.... most of us don't buy our pets with the intent of breeding them... I for one, would love to collecting a group over the years. I love the idea of collecting! My first love collecting has been in plants. I love all kinds of them and collect them in my "specimen garden". Having few tortoises roaming my garden is very appealing but those little hypos are just cost prohibitive. It's ok to me they are all beautiful

 

[xirxes]

Yes I get it, only.... most of us don't buy our pets with the intent of breeding them... I for one, would love to collecting a group over the years. I love the idea of collecting! My first love collecting has been in plants. I love all kinds of them and collect them in my "specimen garden". Having few tortoises roaming my garden is very appealing but those little hypos are just cost prohibitive. It's ok to me they are all beautiful

This would then be like collecting an exceedingly rare variant of a plant you know and love, like a crimson red flowered Calla lily. You would also expect to paya pretty penny for this variant, especially if there are only perhaps 5-10 people in the world who had them to cultivate.

 

[ZEROPILOT]

Like anything. They are worth exactly as much as someone is willing to pay for them.

 

[William Lee Kohler]

I'll ask the question to be sure, but I'm certain they are WC. You can see where the male has grown in captivity with the new growth being lower down. If anyone out there can grow a captive bred tort from the EGG as good as this female then we need to know how they were cared for . .

I've seen at least one that you've grown that was about as perfect as they get. I'd be willing to bet that these wild ones that are actually smooth have gotten that way from wear and tear. My 42 year old has that smoothness over the part of his shell available to wear smooth.