Subspecies?

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Jovski

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So i know my torties are hingebacks and i think they are kinixys belliana nogueyi but i'd like to be sure as i would like to breed :)

They both have 4 toes on the front feet which i was told is important. Phoebe is 1260g and 8 inches under the shell when pushed against a wall. George is 620g and 6.5 inches.

I took some ID photos (i live in a rough neighborhood) so i can post those to help out :)

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I promise this was literally 2 seconds.
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any clue as to age would also be appreciated. I know phoebe has previously laid eggs for 4 years so i assumed her to be at least 8 or 9. I was told beforehand that george was 5, then on the day that he was 6 to 7 and then her daughter said he was 8 so i have no idea. Thanks for any help!
 
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