Temperature in night box during summer

Pák

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Hi all :)

I just want to make this thread as an open discussion, if there is someone who has some thought to share about the topic.

I just moved my sulcata outside to a fenced area of the garden, about 807 square feet. She's currently 2.5 years old and weighs around 10 pounds. A happy little tortoise!

What I’d like to start a conversation about is this: while my tortoise was living in his indoor enclosure (from autumn to spring), he usually preferred to sleep in a spot where the temperature was between 72–75°F (22–24°C). During summer, the room was much warmer, so he tended to spend his nights in areas around 77–79°F (25–26°C).

Yes, of course, the terrarium had a warm zone of about 80.6°F (27°C), but he still didn’t choose that area for sleeping most of the time. There was also a basking spot at around 95°F (35°C), which he happily used during the day.

Now that he’s moved outside, he instantly loved his outdoor house and has used it every day since the very first night. However, once the heat wave hit, I noticed that he goes into his house at night as usual, but then comes back out shortly after—probably because it’s too hot inside.

The house is in full shade all day, but still, if the outside temperature is above 86°F (30°C), even reaching 95°F (35°C), it’s hard to keep the inside much cooler. On those evenings, the temperature inside his house is usually between 84–88°F (29–31°C), and those are the nights when he chooses to sleep outside instead.

So my question is: has anyone else experienced this? What’s the typical temperature in your tortoise’s shelter and outside during hot nights? And what could be a good solution—should I install a fan to help cool things down faster in the evening?

Some pictures for starting the conversation in a better mood: 😊

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A few things:
1. Your tortoise should never have had the chance to be 72 at night. The whole indoor enclosure should never drop below 80. You are lucky your tortoise didn't get sick sleeping at those cold temperatures.
2. Outdoor night box temps in the 80s are ideal. 88 is fine.
3. The tortoise should not have the choice to come back out and sleep outside. It should be locked in its box for safety and correct temperatures every night.
4. Do you have the clear vinyl door flaps over the door to the tortoise house, and is the door just big enough for the tortoise to fit through, but not any bigger? Big doors let heat out in winter and let heat in in summer. Likewise, the door flaps keep heat in in winter, and keep heat out in summer. My boxes stay in the high 80s when daytime temps are over 100 (37C) here every day in summer.
5. If your summers are near or over 37C every day in summer, the tortoise should be encouraged to self dig a burrow to live in over the summer months. If it stays under 36C most of the time, then the box should work fine all year.
6. If you have cool nights, you can prop the lid open to let some heat out over night, and start the next morning cooler so it doesn't heat up as much during the day.
 

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5. If your summers are near or over 37C every day in summer, the tortoise should be encouraged to self dig a burrow to live in over the summer months. If it stays under 36C most of the time, then the box should work fine all year.
The ground temps are too cool that far north. @Pák where you live a burrow even in the summer would be too cold for the tortoise to stay in overnight. Even with daytime temperatures above 38°C. The nighthouse is a must for your tortoise.
 

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Guys please, where did i wrote that i let him sleeping outside? :D Come on I know my climate and I also know whats the needs of my sulcata.

Question was just if there someone who had the same problem and has experience or solution to cool down during daytime the night box. But I will figure it out for myself if not.
 

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The only thing I've found is to place the night box in deep shade, NEVER allowing the sun to shine on it. I also pile leaves over the top for insulation, and have vinyl strips over the doorway.
 

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The only thing I've found is to place the night box in deep shade, NEVER allowing the sun to shine on it. I also pile leaves over the top for insulation, and have vinyl strips over the doorway.
Here is a thread about providing shade:

Maybe @EppsDynasty has some tips for providing shade?
 

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The only thing I've found is to place the night box in deep shade, NEVER allowing the sun to shine on it. I also pile leaves over the top for insulation, and have vinyl strips over the doorway.
This is the BEST. Leaves or (as we use) Blankets to keep the sun from ever shining on the box.
 
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