Zoo med coco

[LittleLove]

Subject: Clarification on Coco Coir Usage

Dear Team,

I hope this message finds you well.

I would like to seek clarification on the type of Coco Coir suitable for my current project involving Fred's house. Although I have previously inquired about this matter and received some feedback, I still have some uncertainties.

I have come across several products, including one from Zoo Med that specifies it is coco fiber, while the other two options do not clearly mention this in their descriptions. I seem to recall hearing that coco fiber may not be advisable for certain applications, yet there are recommendations for using the Zoo Med product.

I am attaching a couple of screenshots for your reference and would greatly appreciate any insight you could provide to ensure the best choice is made.

Thank you

 

[wellington]

I have used the zoo med and I have bought whatever brand on Amazon I could get cheaper that was called coconut coir. I do like the coir better, it has no to very little strands in it. Some people think the longer fibers in some coconut coir can cause problems. I have never had that problem nor heard of anyone actually having that problem. To me, the strands just aren't long enough to cause a problem. But if you can get it without strands, why not.
Now, as far as moss, I have had a problem with moss wrapping around my hatchlings leg and neck. Moss I would not use or recommend.

 

[jaizei]

The coco fiber that is advised against is what you sometimes see used to line hanging plant pots, it's fiber as in stringy.

The eco earth is the type of coir that is recommended. Coconut fiber is one of the terms sometimes used to describe it. Coir may also be called coco/coconut peat, coco/coconut earth, or coconut pith.

 

[LittleLove]

I have used the zoo med and I have bought whatever brand on Amazon I could get cheaper that was called coconut coir. I do like the coir better, it has no to very little strands in it. Some people think the longer fibers in some coconut coir can cause problems. I have never had that problem nor heard of anyone having that problem. To me, the strands just aren't long enough to cause a problem. But if you can get it without strands, why not?
Now, as far as moss, I have had a problem with moss wrapping around my hatchlings leg and neck. Moss, I would not use or recommend it.

Wellington, out of the screenshots I sent, what one do you suggest?

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Wellington, out of the screenshots I sent, what one do you suggest?

Any of them look good to me personally

 

[wellington]

Anyone should be fine

 

[Tom]

Subject: Clarification on Coco Coir Usage

Dear Team,

I hope this message finds you well.

I would like to seek clarification on the type of Coco Coir suitable for my current project involving Fred's house. Although I have previously inquired about this matter and received some feedback, I still have some uncertainties.

I have come across several products, including one from Zoo Med that specifies it is coco fiber, while the other two options do not clearly mention this in their descriptions. I seem to recall hearing that coco fiber may not be advisable for certain applications, yet there are recommendations for using the Zoo Med product.

I am attaching a couple of screenshots for your reference and would greatly appreciate any insight you could provide to ensure the best choice is made.

Thank you

Both of these products are safe. You can use either, but I don't recommend coir for a sulcata. It is too messy. Orchid bark works better. You can find it cheaper in bulk at nurseries, but usually not at hardware stores type nurseries like Home Depot. If you can't find it locally, you can always order the 24 quart bags of "Repti-Bark" by ZooMed from Chewey or from Petco.com.

If you do use coir, keep it damp, and firmly hand pack a thick layer of it. Don't let it be too loose and don't let it dry out.

 

[Maggie3fan]

Personally...I am an experienced keeper and for all my keeping years I have used 'fine' grade orchid bark. I dislike eco earth or coir...too messy and doesn't hold the moisture good enuf for me...I keep a small Sulcata on orchid bark as we speak...my Redfoot is on it, my box turtles...and I have actually experimented actually using it for plants...I love the stuff, it smells good and my box turtles make nests in it...

 

[LittleLove]

The coco fiber that is advised against is what you sometimes see used to line hanging plant pots, it's fiber as in stringy.

The eco earth is the type of coir that is recommended. Coconut fiber is one of the terms sometimes used to describe it. Coir may also be called coco/coconut peat, coco/coconut earth, or coconut pith.

I should have just posted this for anyone to see sorry.
What one would you

Both of these products are safe. You can use either, but I don't recommend coir for a sulcata. It is too messy. Orchid bark works better. You can find it cheaper in bulk at nurseries, but usually not at hardware stores type nurseries like Home Depot. If you can't find it locally, you can always order the 24 quart bags of "Repti-Bark" by ZooMed from Chewey or from Petco.com.

If you do use coir, keep it damp, and firmly hand pack a thick layer of it. Don't let it be too loose and don't let it dry out.

Both of these products are safe. You can use either, but I don't recommend coir for a sulcata. It is too messy. Orchid bark works better. You can find it cheaper in bulk at nurseries, but usually not at hardware stores type nurseries like Home Depot. If you can't find it locally, you can always order the 24 quart bags of "Repti-Bark" by ZooMed from Chewey or from Petco.com.

If you do use coir, keep it damp, and firmly hand pack a thick layer of it. Don't let it be too loose and don't let it dry out.

Hello Tom, how are you doing this morning? I am getting the zoo med coco coir today. I have the Bark in his house right now. But I find that the Bark has to many big pieces and it worried me.

 

[Tom]

Hello Tom, how are you doing this morning? I am getting the zoo med coco coir today. I have the Bark in his house right now. But I find that the Bark has to many big pieces and it worried me.

What size orchid bark is it? Can you post a picture? What is your worry? Maybe we can help to eliminate the worry?

 

[LittleLove]

What size orchid bark is it? Can you post a picture? What is your worry? Maybe we can help to eliminate the worry?

I am worried that he is going to get a piece stuck in his eye, or he will get a sliver in his feet.

 

[Maggie3fan]

What size orchid bark is it? Can you post a picture? What is your worry? Maybe we can help to eliminate the worry?

you know 'small' grade is what was recommended to me 20+ years...and I have used the small grade ever since

 

[Tom]

I am worried that he is going to get a piece stuck in his eye, or he will get a sliver in his feet.

That is not orchid bark. It looks like coco coir with a handful of cypress mulch mixed in.

 

[Tom]

you know 'small' grade is what was recommended to me 20+ years...and I have used the small grade ever since

"Fine grade" is what you are referring to, I think.

 

[Maggie3fan]

"Fine grade" is what you are referring to, I think.

Absolutely! I knew it didn't look right when I typed it...lol

 

[LittleLove]

That is not orchid bark. It looks like coco coir with a handful of cypress mulch mixed in.

You are right , I thought I had read so where it was good to use. Alls I know is I did not like it for Fred.

 

[Tom]

You are right , I thought I had read so where it was good to use. Alls I know is I did not like it for Fred.

That is Cyprus mulch, and it works well too. Its one of the three safe ones to use.

 

[LittleLove]

That is Cyprus mulch, and it works well too. Its one of the three safe ones to use.

Thanks Tom