COLD DARK ROOM

[johnandjade]

I threatened to bring in a union rep and he let it go.(That I called him on it)

unions I think are fantastic! ... however, i've offered to be 'shop steward' for us in my place but no one is even interested in the idea of joining up to one?!

 

[ZEROPILOT]

wasn't it him 'letting it go' that caused the issue

Yes. I think I cured him......... through embarrassment.

 

[kirsty Johnston]

Testudo is the genus of closely related species.
graeca which should never be in capitals is the species.
A species is defined (loosely) as a group of animals that can breed and produce fertile offspring, so for example lions (Panthera leo) are the same genus as tigers (Panthera tigris) so are closely related and can have offspring, but that offspring is typically sterile.
So we are Homo sapiens (sapiens meaning wise) thus wise man.(ahem).
graeca means Greek, but is not referring to the country but to a style of Greek mosaic that resembles the shell pattern.
ibera is the sub species, a group isolated enough from the others of it's species to be noticeably different, but still capable of interbreeding with the others. ibera are the group of greek tortoises found in an area centred on Turkey.
My Tidgy is Testudo graeca greaca. The type subspecies from Morocco. (and a couple of other places).
We are also a type subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens and are now alone, but up to a few thousand years ago there was also Homo sapiens neanderthalensis,Neanderthal man that we interbred with when we encountered them in Europe.

That's interesting stuff. My fiancé and I banged our heads together one night and decided it meant Greek tortoise Turkey lol!! We were kind of right... Just the tortoise actually means shell lol! Your really smart

 

[johnandjade]

Testudo is the genus of closely related species.
graeca which should never be in capitals is the species.
A species is defined (loosely) as a group of animals that can breed and produce fertile offspring, so for example lions (Panthera leo) are the same genus as tigers (Panthera tigris) so are closely related and can have offspring, but that offspring is typically sterile.
So we are Homo sapiens (sapiens meaning wise) thus wise man.(ahem).
graeca means Greek, but is not referring to the country but to a style of Greek mosaic that resembles the shell pattern.
ibera is the sub species, a group isolated enough from the others of it's species to be noticeably different, but still capable of interbreeding with the others. ibera are the group of greek tortoises found in an area centred on Turkey.
My Tidgy is Testudo graeca greaca. The type subspecies from Morocco. (and a couple of other places).
We are also a type subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens and are now alone, but up to a few thousand years ago there was also Homo sapiens neanderthalensis,Neanderthal man that we interbred with when we encountered them in Europe.

mr adam sir, i think you could put google out of business! (and really still want to take you to a pub quiz!)

 

[ZEROPILOT]

unions I think are fantastic! ... however, i've offered to be 'shop steward' for us in my place but no one is even interested in the idea of joining up to one?!

IMO day to day things are taken for granted but our hourly rate, retirement and other benefits would be half what they are without our union. Some folks only join when they have a problem. I had an issue about 20 years ago that was resolved and I've remained out of loyalty.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I'm very well thanks your right - hibernating beastie is a bad idea this year so I'm not going to do it. I would never forgive myself if anything bad happened.
I made a post about what I should feed him over winter but nobody has replied yet all the bloomin' weeds and flowers and dead lol

Yes, this can be a problem in over wintering, which i get here too, as I always have over wintered Tidgy as she's been so young, I am in two minds whether or not to do it this year, no she is about 5 years old.
In the end it often comes down to having to rely on store bought greens and salad mixes, a modicum of lettuce and anything else you can get your hands on. The Tortoise Table is very useful to find out what's good or not. Tidgy is currently on red lettuce, prickly pear, chicory, and the green tops of various vegetables. Petals and leaves from peoples natural, unsprayed gardens are also acquired.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

ITS FRIDAYYYYYYYYYYYY

Yipppeee!!!!

 

[johnandjade]

IMO day to day things are taken for granted but our hourly rate, retirement and other benefits would be half what they are without our union. Some folks only join when they have a problem. I had an issue about 20 years ago that was resolved and I've remained out of loyalty.

I'm grateful to be employed, it is hard to find work here and some work for as little as £4 per hr ?! only one way things will change in my eyes... together we stand, divided we fall

 

[ZEROPILOT]

How many of us are also off on Monday?

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I can finally turn my alarm off for the next 2 nights haha

Or just put it in your brother's room under his bed.

 

[spud's_mum]

Or just put it in your brother's room under his bed.

It probably wouldn't wake him.. Just everyone else in the house haha

 

[kirsty Johnston]

Yes, this can be a problem in over wintering, which i get here too, as I always have over wintered Tidgy as she's been so young, I am in two minds whether or not to do it this year, no she is about 5 years old.
In the end it often comes down to having to rely on store bought greens and salad mixes, a modicum of lettuce and anything else you can get your hands on. The Tortoise Table is very useful to find out what's good or not. Tidgy is currently on red lettuce, prickly pear, chicory, and the green tops of various vegetables. Petals and leaves from peoples natural, unsprayed gardens are also acquired.

I'm not much of a gardener but won't the flowers be dead as well. I have some Fusias and violas in my back garden but won't they be gone?
I know that artichoke and lambs lettuce is healthy and available in the supermarket. My fiancé said you can buy dried out flowers / weeds online - but if they are dried does that mean all the nutrition is gone?
I also ordered a weed growing kit but tried that before and failed miserably lol. Sure I'll get thee

 

[kirsty Johnston]

How many of us are also off on Monday?

Lol not me! I go back on Monday

 

[spud's_mum]

yummmmmmm

It says "share an enjoy" pfffftt as if!
I'll just enjoy it on my own

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

yeah I agree... my only hold back is.. i'll need to give the adress and i dont want any abuse coming jades way? lyn could be right on track with a tortnapping?

We cannot advocate illegal activity on Tortoise Forum, or indeed, in The Cold Dark Room.
But I think it would be good if it mysteriously ended up at your house.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Lol I know what you mean. In all seriousness... I have no problem phoning them and saying I was in the neighbourhood and seen it in the back garden?? I would give my name (not address though) so it doesn't go back to her? I just don't want him/her to suffer anymore

Good plan, Kirsty.

 

[kirsty Johnston]

Yes, this can be a problem in over wintering, which i get here too, as I always have over wintered Tidgy as she's been so young, I am in two minds whether or not to do it this year, no she is about 5 years old.
In the end it often comes down to having to rely on store bought greens and salad mixes, a modicum of lettuce and anything else you can get your hands on. The Tortoise Table is very useful to find out what's good or not. Tidgy is currently on red lettuce, prickly pear, chicory, and the green tops of various vegetables. Petals and leaves from peoples natural, unsprayed gardens are also acquired.

Aw carrot tops!!! I never thought of that... I'm getting their

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Mmmmmmm
Just had ham egg and chips

yummy!
Did you save any for me?
I can't get ham in Morocco.

 

[spud's_mum]

It says your only meant to have 12

are you serious?

 

[ZEROPILOT]

yummy!
Did you save any for me?
I can't get ham in Morocco.

Bacon could be our biggest cultural difference......