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Wow, I just began keeping redfoots at the beginning of 2018. I used the Tortoise Library as a recent jumping off point. I posted a few times my consternation that the link to the Tortoise Library did not work (glad it does again). I called and spoke to Terry many times, how he writes and how he talks seem to communicate differently, but that's my case too.
So far the result of following Terry's narrated suggestions have helped, but have always been tempered by my reading a great deal of many other things. That goes back to over 30 years ago reading publications of Karen Bjorndal.
I also keep several Kinixys and Indotestduo which are niche homologous species.
The over all problem with Care sheets, all of them. They act like a cake recipe in most peoples' minds. Mix and bake in an oven. Just how much Mix and how much water, for how long at what temp. Most ovens are standard, most cake pans are standard. Tortoises are organic, no-two-the-same, organisms. And when you add in all the outside climates we deal with and the ones we make, no single care sheet with intense detail will be a one-all. You have the guidelines of a care sheet, but not the history of experience, and the daily look at them and see what's happening.
That means what one caresheet writer has done may not work for another.
Many of the ways Tom writes care sheet is pretty good, they set bounds, do's and do-nots, maximums and minimums, and leave what I would call situation specific details out. What he does in his care sheets though is assure you he has vetted what he's done himself.
I am a reasonably good critical reader, I see that often in my day job working in a BioPharmaceutical lab. When I read care sheets I skim over the opinion that is not based on direct or indirect observation (what they read and are reporting on) of the author.
I have gotten value out of all the contributors of this thread regarding Red-Foots, but of TFO specific authors "Tortoise Library" wins. Maybe it is writing style?
So far the result of following Terry's narrated suggestions have helped, but have always been tempered by my reading a great deal of many other things. That goes back to over 30 years ago reading publications of Karen Bjorndal.
I also keep several Kinixys and Indotestduo which are niche homologous species.
The over all problem with Care sheets, all of them. They act like a cake recipe in most peoples' minds. Mix and bake in an oven. Just how much Mix and how much water, for how long at what temp. Most ovens are standard, most cake pans are standard. Tortoises are organic, no-two-the-same, organisms. And when you add in all the outside climates we deal with and the ones we make, no single care sheet with intense detail will be a one-all. You have the guidelines of a care sheet, but not the history of experience, and the daily look at them and see what's happening.
That means what one caresheet writer has done may not work for another.
Many of the ways Tom writes care sheet is pretty good, they set bounds, do's and do-nots, maximums and minimums, and leave what I would call situation specific details out. What he does in his care sheets though is assure you he has vetted what he's done himself.
I am a reasonably good critical reader, I see that often in my day job working in a BioPharmaceutical lab. When I read care sheets I skim over the opinion that is not based on direct or indirect observation (what they read and are reporting on) of the author.
I have gotten value out of all the contributors of this thread regarding Red-Foots, but of TFO specific authors "Tortoise Library" wins. Maybe it is writing style?