The pumpkin pictures are too sweet. And real good ones too, to see the contrast between the pumpkin orange color and aldabra black one 
Baoh said:At what straight length measurement do you find you are able to start getting a semi-accurate feeling regarding the sex of younger animals?
Yellow Turtle said:The pumpkin pictures are too sweet.
lori12386 said:Love it. They are gorgeous!
tortoises101 said:Greg, where did you get your herd? Keep your pics coming.
Yellow Turtle said:My aldabra loves pumpkin. I just afraid to feed him too much.
ALDABRAMAN said:Baoh said:At what straight length measurement do you find you are able to start getting a semi-accurate feeling regarding the sex of younger animals?
* That is so tough to answer. I simply can not determine sex by straight line measurements alone, unless they are mature and that has nothing to really do with the length of the tortoise. I have had and seen large captive fast grown males that were easily over the 400+ pound range and had no significant concave plastron or substantial length to the tail. Knowing that they are males by just sheer size. Now on the other side, i have seen a few smaller imported males, around the 300 to 350 pound range, that had very distinctive concave plastrons and a substantial size tail. I know of one aldabra that is in his 40's, a good 500+ pounds and has no concave plastron, flat as he can be. He is a big and young, not mature. The only valid way we can determine the sex of a young aldabra tortoise is by an endoscopy procedure or genital observation (if your fortunate and it is a male). I have been told by several sources that the gallop species can determine the sex by a blood test at around the 14 years of age mark. Unsure if this is true with the aldabra species. I wish it was that easy to determine sex by length alone. Based on all of my experience my opinion is simply that any captive raised aldabra under 36" could be male or female if the plastron is smooth and the tail is not noticeably large. We have found that females tend to be more shy, standoffish, and more reclusive. Males tend to be more outgoing, curious, bold, and social. Boah, I read many of your posts and you are a very smart guy, hope this kinda answers your question. Bottom line is unless a male is mature it is very difficult to determine sex by size alone.
Yellow Turtle said:The pumpkin pictures are too sweet.
* Thank you. This time of year we feed pumpkins heavily. They do like them, however it seems to be individual preference. A couple of our females never show any interest and prefer to eat grass, weeds, etc. avoiding the pumpkins totally.
ALDABRAMAN said:tortoises101 said:Greg, where did you get your herd? Keep your pics coming.
We purchased all of our current breeding group from a variety of places. All except Alfa has been in our program for at least the last thirteen years. Alfa just since June of this year. Peanut has been with me for over twenty years. Over several decades i have had many come and go resulting with the proven 4.7 group we now have.
* Grace // Purchased from Life Fellowship
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* Peanut on the left // Purchased from Wayne Hill
* Sandy on the right // Purchased from a private keeper
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* Miss Godley // Purchased from a private zoo
* Norma // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
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* Sampson // Purchased form a private keeper
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* Alfa // Purchased from Jungle Island
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* Cowboy // Purchased from Life Fellowship
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* Sky // Purchased from a private zoo
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* Hommer // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
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* April // Purchased from a private keeper
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lori12386 said:I love the picture of Sky. She is so cute. I love how she is standing so tall saying " look at me!". Great pics as always. I just want to play with them i could watch them for hours!
ALDABRAMAN said:tortoises101 said:Greg, where did you get your herd? Keep your pics coming.
We purchased all of our current breeding group from a variety of places. All except Alfa has been in our program for at least the last thirteen years. Alfa just since June of this year. Peanut has been with me for over twenty years. Over several decades i have had many come and go resulting with the proven 4.7 group we now have.
* Grace // Purchased from Life Fellowship
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* Peanut on the left // Purchased from Wayne Hill
* Sandy on the right // Purchased from a private keeper
![]()
* Miss Godley // Purchased from a private zoo
* Norma // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
![]()
* Sampson // Purchased form a private keeper
![]()
* Alfa // Purchased from Jungle Island
![]()
* Cowboy // Purchased from Life Fellowship
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* Sky // Purchased from a private zoo
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* Hommer // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
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* April // Purchased from a private keeper
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Baoh said:ALDABRAMAN said:Baoh said:At what straight length measurement do you find you are able to start getting a semi-accurate feeling regarding the sex of younger animals?
* That is so tough to answer. I simply can not determine sex by straight line measurements alone, unless they are mature and that has nothing to really do with the length of the tortoise. I have had and seen large captive fast grown males that were easily over the 400+ pound range and had no significant concave plastron or substantial length to the tail. Knowing that they are males by just sheer size. Now on the other side, i have seen a few smaller imported males, around the 300 to 350 pound range, that had very distinctive concave plastrons and a substantial size tail. I know of one aldabra that is in his 40's, a good 500+ pounds and has no concave plastron, flat as he can be. He is a big and young, not mature. The only valid way we can determine the sex of a young aldabra tortoise is by an endoscopy procedure or genital observation (if your fortunate and it is a male). I have been told by several sources that the gallop species can determine the sex by a blood test at around the 14 years of age mark. Unsure if this is true with the aldabra species. I wish it was that easy to determine sex by length alone. Based on all of my experience my opinion is simply that any captive raised aldabra under 36" could be male or female if the plastron is smooth and the tail is not noticeably large. We have found that females tend to be more shy, standoffish, and more reclusive. Males tend to be more outgoing, curious, bold, and social. Boah, I read many of your posts and you are a very smart guy, hope this kinda answers your question. Bottom line is unless a male is mature it is very difficult to determine sex by size alone.
Yellow Turtle said:The pumpkin pictures are too sweet.
* Thank you. This time of year we feed pumpkins heavily. They do like them, however it seems to be individual preference. A couple of our females never show any interest and prefer to eat grass, weeds, etc. avoiding the pumpkins totally.
Thanks, Greg. I did not mean that sex could be determined by size. Rather, I was curious to know at what size, on average, you find yourself able to determine sex via other secondary sexual characteristics (such as tail size and so on). You did answer my intended question, though, as your response was quite thorough. Much appreciated.
Yellow Turtle said:Greg, I see that your female aldabras mostly have higher dome than male ones. Is that the norms for aldabra female to have higher domes or it's just random. Thank you.