The pumpkin pictures are too sweet. And real good ones too, to see the contrast between the pumpkin orange color and aldabra black one 
ALDABRA TORTOISE BREEDER
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Greg, when and where did you get your herd? Keep your pics coming.
Baoh said:
* That is so tough to answer. I simply can not determine sex by straight line measurements alone, unless they are mature and that has nothing to really do with the length of the tortoise. I have had and seen large captive fast grown males that were easily over the 400+ pound range and had no significant concave plastron or substantial length to the tail. Knowing that they are males by just sheer size. Now on the other side, i have seen a few smaller imported males, around the 300 to 350 pound range, that had very distinctive concave plastrons and a substantial size tail. I know of one aldabra that is in his 40's, a good 500+ pounds and has no concave plastron, flat as he can be. He is a big and young, not mature. The only valid way we can determine the sex of a young aldabra tortoise is by an endoscopy procedure or genital observation (if your fortunate and it is a male). I have been told by several sources that the gallop species can determine the sex by a blood test at around the 14 years of age mark. Unsure if this is true with the aldabra species. I wish it was that easy to determine sex by length alone. Based on all of my experience my opinion is simply that any captive raised aldabra under 36" could be male or female if the plastron is smooth and the tail is not noticeably large. We have found that females tend to be more shy, standoffish, and more reclusive. Males tend to be more outgoing, curious, bold, and social. Boah, I read many of your posts and you are a very smart guy, hope this kinda answers your question. Bottom line is unless a male is mature it is very difficult to determine sex by size alone.
Yellow Turtle said:
* Thank you. This time of year we feed pumpkins heavily. They do like them, however it seems to be individual preference. A couple of our females never show any interest and prefer to eat grass, weeds, etc. avoiding the pumpkins totally.
Love it. I want ti come visit! Do you accept visitors? Lol. They are gorgeous!
lori12386 said:
* Thank you. We strive to keep them as happy and healthy as possible!
My aldabra loves pumpkin. I just afraid to feed him too much. Always the question, how much is too much for me
tortoises101 said:
We purchased all of our current breeding group from a variety of places. All except Alfa has been in our program for at least the last thirteen years. Alfa just since June of this year. Peanut has been with me for over twenty years. Over several decades i have had many come and go resulting with the proven 4.7 group we now have.
* Grace // Purchased from Life Fellowship
* Peanut on the left // Purchased from Wayne Hill
* Sandy on the right // Purchased from a private keeper
* Miss Godley // Purchased from a private zoo
* Norma // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
* Sampson // Purchased form a private keeper
* Alfa // Purchased from Jungle Island
* Cowboy // Purchased from Life Fellowship
* Sky // Purchased from a private zoo
* Hommer // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
* April // Purchased from a private keeper
Yellow Turtle said:
* Pumpkin is something you should not over feed. We feed it only as a supplement to there regular diet, mostly during pumpkin season / halloween time. We do not feed any of our hatchlings pumpkin at all!
ALDABRAMAN said:
Thanks, Greg. I did not mean that sex could be determined by size. Rather, I was curious to know at what size, on average, you find yourself able to determine sex via other secondary sexual characteristics (such as tail size and so on). You did answer my intended question, though, as your response was quite thorough. Much appreciated.
I love the picture of Sky. She is so cute. I love how she is standing so tall saying " look at me!". Great pics as always. I just want to play with them i could watch them for hours!
ALDABRAMAN said:tortoises101 said:
We purchased all of our current breeding group from a variety of places. All except Alfa has been in our program for at least the last thirteen years. Alfa just since June of this year. Peanut has been with me for over twenty years. Over several decades i have had many come and go resulting with the proven 4.7 group we now have.
* Grace // Purchased from Life Fellowship
* Peanut on the left // Purchased from Wayne Hill
* Sandy on the right // Purchased from a private keeper
* Miss Godley // Purchased from a private zoo
* Norma // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
* Sampson // Purchased form a private keeper
* Alfa // Purchased from Jungle Island
* Cowboy // Purchased from Life Fellowship
* Sky // Purchased from a private zoo
* Hommer // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
* April // Purchased from a private keeper
lori12386 said:I love the picture of Sky. She is so cute. I love how she is standing so tall saying " look at me!". Great pics as always. I just want to play with them i could watch them for hours!
ALDABRAMAN said:tortoises101 said:
We purchased all of our current breeding group from a variety of places. All except Alfa has been in our program for at least the last thirteen years. Alfa just since June of this year. Peanut has been with me for over twenty years. Over several decades i have had many come and go resulting with the proven 4.7 group we now have.
* Grace // Purchased from Life Fellowship
* Peanut on the left // Purchased from Wayne Hill
* Sandy on the right // Purchased from a private keeper
* Miss Godley // Purchased from a private zoo
* Norma // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
* Sampson // Purchased form a private keeper
* Alfa // Purchased from Jungle Island
* Cowboy // Purchased from Life Fellowship
* Sky // Purchased from a private zoo
* Hommer // Purchased from Parrot Jungle
* April // Purchased from a private keeper
* Thank you. She always stands so tall looking up, that is why we named her Sky!
Baoh said:
* My pleasure!
This is our oldest and biggest female aldabra, Miss Godley.
Alfa enjoying the sunshine and browsing at the far end of the field.
Greg, I see that your female aldabras mostly have higher dome than male ones. Is that the norms for aldabra female to have higher domes or it's just random. Thank you.
Yellow Turtle said:
* Yes, all of our females follow that trend with having higher domed carapaces. All four of our males do trend towards having the flatter carapaces. Seems to be gender related with our small group. All of our hatchlings seem to initially have the higher domed carapaces. Something else that i have noticed and found interesting in our group is that all of our males tend to flare at the outer edges of there carapaces and none of the females do.
Fantastic. I still love sampson and grace. However miss godly is godly gargantuan for a female greg.
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