COLD DARK ROOM

[Cowboy_Ken]

Good morning, Ken.

Good morning to me, good afternoon to you, my good sir. And the neck? Do tell…

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Hopefully you'll turn out better than these boys did! Adam, I'm not sure if you've seen these yet or not. If no, everyone else may enjoy them, if yes, then I think you AND everyone else may enjoy them. This first is more properly in the bird section …View attachment 186220
These two are best for a turtle forum, the poor buggers couldn't even withdraw there heads yet,(possibly leading to a neck crick). View attachment 186221View attachment 186222 and this last is more properly in the lizard group, though I believe they were more likely warm blooded, not cold blooded as modern lizards are. View attachment 186223

Golly, Ken!
Splendid!
I'll take them in order.
The one at the top is possibly Cathayornis or Explorornis, but may be one of the Chinese fakes or copies ?
Where did you get these ? I am most intrigued.
Birds, of course have ceased to exist as a separate group and are now classed as a taxon of dinosaurs.
I've seen similar genuine ones and fakes very like this, but not this specimen.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Hopefully you'll turn out better than these boys did! Adam, I'm not sure if you've seen these yet or not. If no, everyone else may enjoy them, if yes, then I think you AND everyone else may enjoy them. This first is more properly in the bird section …View attachment 186220
These two are best for a turtle forum, the poor buggers couldn't even withdraw there heads yet,(possibly leading to a neck crick). View attachment 186221View attachment 186222 and this last is more properly in the lizard group, though I believe they were more likely warm blooded, not cold blooded as modern lizards are. View attachment 186223

Two soft shelled turtles ?
Jurassic ?
I'm not sure, these are fascinating, are they real and where from ?
I must know!!!!! Worth a lot of money if genuine.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Hopefully you'll turn out better than these boys did! Adam, I'm not sure if you've seen these yet or not. If no, everyone else may enjoy them, if yes, then I think you AND everyone else may enjoy them. This first is more properly in the bird section …View attachment 186220
These two are best for a turtle forum, the poor buggers couldn't even withdraw there heads yet,(possibly leading to a neck crick). View attachment 186221View attachment 186222 and this last is more properly in the lizard group, though I believe they were more likely warm blooded, not cold blooded as modern lizards are. View attachment 186223

The reptile.
I'll guess Keichousaurus, Triassic period.If so probably cold-blooded, not a lizard, a pachypleurosaur or nothosaur .
These all look of Chinese origin, lots of beautiful fossils coming out of China, but also, along with Morocco, the source of thousands of very good and some rubbish fakes.
Please tell me more, I am so curious and possibly envious.

 

[johnandjade]

Count me in! The pub would become alive with patrons!

howdy cowbow! any word back from the interview yet?

 

[johnandjade]

Good afternoon, John!

afternoon adam

 

[johnandjade]

KFC lunch

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I remembered one more, an old plastron. Seem to me to be hinged but truthfully I'm not real familiar with the different hinged species. So here are 2 pictures. First one is of the inner side of the plastron. Second one is of the outer side of the plastron. Help from others in identifying help would be great. View attachment 186224View attachment 186225This final one is a side picture on a ,ahem drink as it were View attachment 186226

That one's my favourite.
Definitely real, (or a perfect copy), the scute structure is unmistakable.
To identify the genus, I'd need to know the locality it came from.
Wonderful, Ken, thanks for posting!

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Good morning to me, good afternoon to you, my good sir. And the neck? Do tell…

Still hurting this morning, can't turn my neck to the left.
Don't know what happened.
Just 'crick' last night and a lot of pain.
I'll abseil down the building later, that should fix it.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

KFC lunch

I'm too excited about Ken's fossils to eat!
Will be trawling my books and papers and the internet for the next few hours, methinks.

 

[Cowboy_Ken]

these are fascinating, are they real

Yes real. I'll need to "dig" up my paperwork on them to let you know where from and what era. Here's the one I got "took" on! I wasn't happy about it, but things happen sometimes, right.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Yes real. I'll need to "dig" up my paperwork on them to let you know where from and what era. Here's the one I got "took" on! I wasn't happy about it, but things happen sometimes, right. View attachment 186230

Yep, I still get caught, occasionally, got done with a lovely trilobite last year.
Yes, this one's definitely a fake, written all over it.
I'm very suspicious about the bird, i'd be willing to bet that's a Chinese fake of a real Chinese species.
If they're real, they're worth a lot of money, Ken.
Serious dosh.
Who was the dealer, if you don't mind me asking ?

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Yes real. I'll need to "dig" up my paperwork on them to let you know where from and what era. Here's the one I got "took" on! I wasn't happy about it, but things happen sometimes, right. View attachment 186230

Hmmmmmmmmm.
One like this 'double' on here.
Your bird is much better than the fake on shown here.
But the turtles look familiar.
https://www.paleodirect.com/fake-chinese-fossils-fossil-forgery-from-china/

 

[Cowboy_Ken]

Who was the dealer, if you don't mind me asking ?

As before, I'll have to dig all the paperwork up concerning them. Chinese huh, they're Communists, right? I think the USofA owes them something near $4.3 trillion.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

As before, I'll have to dig all the paperwork up concerning them. Chinese huh, they're Communists, right? I think the USofA owes them something near $4.3 trillion.

Well, sort of capitalist communists, these days.
I think Morocco owes them a mint as well, but not quite that much.

 

[Moozillion]

Good morning, Cold Dark Roomers!
I'm just popping in briefly to say hi.
Am driving 2 hrs back to where I used to work to have lunch with a former co-worker and then visit another friend.
I am bringing tuna for the cats, venison jerky for the dog and red wine for the friend!
Should be a pleasant, full day!
Will likely pop back in later tonight.
Have a great day!!!

 

[JoesMum]

Good morning, Cold Dark Roomers!
I'm just popping in briefly to say hi.
Am driving 2 hrs back to where I used to work to have lunch with a former co-worker and then visit another friend.
I am bringing tuna for the cats, venison jerky for the dog and red wine for the friend!
Should be a pleasant, full day!
Will likely pop back in later tonight.
Have a great day!!!

Good morning to you. Sounds like a good day ahead

 

[Cowboy_Ken]

I think Morocco owes them,but not quite that much.

But we're America, so it doesn't really matter. LOL

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

Good morning, Cold Dark Roomers!
I'm just popping in briefly to say hi.
Am driving 2 hrs back to where I used to work to have lunch with a former co-worker and then visit another friend.
I am bringing tuna for the cats, venison jerky for the dog and red wine for the friend!
Should be a pleasant, full day!
Will likely pop back in later tonight.
Have a great day!!!

You too, Mooz.
Why not give the tuna to your friend, venison jerky to me and the wine to the cat ?
Sorry, dog.
Sounds like a fun day, Bea, enjoy.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

But we're America, so it doesn't really matter. LOL

We're in Africa, so we borrow heaps of money from everyone we can and then it gets written off.
Splendid!