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Lyn W

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I asked Mr Google...

Why is Prince Philip not called King Phillip?

Philip is not the sovereign because he was not heir to the throne of England. He merely became the Consort - or husband - of the sovereign Queen. He could still have been styled King - known as a King Consort, who takes the title but does not rule - but Parliament and the Crown realised that giving him the title of King Consort would be unpopular with the British people for a variety of reasons. In the final analysis this was a political decision rather than one based on historical precedence. The principle reason for not giving Philip the title of King was that he is a foreigner and that this might cause confusion as to who was the sovereign. This is the same reason that Queen Victoria's husband, Albert, became Prince Consort rather than King Consort. In the United Kingdom there is no automatic right of the consort of the queen to retain any title. This means, technically, Philip could be given any title, including King Consort or Prince Consort, or no title at all. Indeed he did not even receive the title of Prince Consort until 1957, even though the Queen began her reign in 1952. There are a number of historical precedences which demonstrate that Philip could have become a King. In 1554, Mary I married Philip II of Spain and he became King of England by right of marriage. William of Orange, Stadtholder of the Netherlands, became King of England on the invitation of Parliament partly because he was married to Mary Stuart, the deposed King's daughter. They reigned jointly as William & Mary. Finally Mary, Queen of Scots, married Henry Darnley and he became King Consort of Scotland. But it is important to realise that if Philip had become King he would have been a King "Consort" (i.e. by right of marriage) and he would remain under the Queen, who as Queen Regnant (i.e. reigning) would remain the Sovereign. Why? Because the sovereignty of the Crown passes to the nearest blood relative and not by marriage. As King Consort if Philip survived the death of the Queen, he would not become sovereign but rather his son Charles would become King and a new title (similar to Queen Mother, perhaps "King Father"!) would have to be found. For although males takes precedence over females in succession the overriding factor is that Philip is not heir to the throne by blood.
I'm glad you did that so I don't have to, there are lot of rules around the Royal Family that not many Brits understand.
They've just said that Harry and Meghan Markle's sprog won't be a prince/princess, but then Princess Margaret's kids aren't either. Yet Prince Andrew's daughters are princesses. I think they make it up as they go along!
 

Lyn W

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You know now that I am familiar with how tortoise should look and what pyramiding is I cringe when I see a tort with bad pyramiding. It is quite sad. But then not everyone has had the luxury of getting such good information like we do on TFO.
I'd never heard of it until I joined TFO, it has taught me such a lot!
 

Lyn W

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Lyn W

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I think I've caught up reading, at least for the moment. Been dealing with a sick four-legged kid the last few days. Cattley came down with a full blown cold (or at least the symptoms) over the weekend, and I took him to the vet yesterday. He was sneezing, sniffling, with an itchy nose (rubbing it with his paw), and just all around looking miserable. No lesions anywhere, thankfully, and no thick or colored discharge. The vet was able to rule out the nasty stuff that causes feline respiratory problems, so that's good (relatively).
Poor kitty. Hope he's feeling better now.
 

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Yes, it would be cute to have a litter of foxies jumping about.
I recently went on an anti fox hunting demonstration in my area.
Fox hunting with dogs has been illegal in the UK for a long while and the Hunts are supposed to just use the dogs for trail hunting now but they import fox urine and drag it to areas where they know there are foxes, or they send in men to dig the foxes and cubs out of the dens so that the dogs can chase them and tear them to bits. A terrifying and cruel end for the foxes. The police won't do anything about it without video evidence, even though they are breaking the law. It's very barbaric.
 

Lyn W

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Today I’m have my monthly mom’s coffee but this time we may be missing one friend. She found out last week that she has pancreatic cancer.
I’m guessing there will be tears. Hopefully she will let us support her any way we can.

We have had rain everyday and it won’t stop until Friday. My torts are not happy.
So very sorry for your friend I'm sure she will appreciate all your support.
 

Lyn W

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I've done it!!
Caught up with you all and hopefully not missed any posts.
Glad that every 2 legged member here seems OK, and hope Cattley is better now.
It's quite chilly in Wales at the moment, and pretty dry for weeks which is very unusual for us, but we have had some showers the last couple of days. Snow is only expected on the higher hills but doesn't stop me hoping for a few snow days to close the schools!
 

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Poor kitty. Hope he's feeling better now.
Cattley is feeling better, finally. Unfortunately, the rest of the cats are in various stages of illness. Sneezing, congested, open mouth breathing, generally not feeling good. I'm hoping we're done with this illness within a week.
 

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Cattley is feeling better, finally. Unfortunately, the rest of the cats are in various stages of illness. Sneezing, congested, open mouth breathing, generally not feeling good. I'm hoping we're done with this illness within a week.
Good luck with that, and wishing all your cats a speedy recovery.
 
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