Greek tortoise identification?

[VP Exotics]

Just picked up this Greek tortoise. So there's an Ibera tortoise. But now that I've got a closer look I'm getting this Libyan feel. She's about 8 in long. Her head has the yellow top and neck similar to how Libyan looks. She does have big spurs but they are yellow and not black. While her carapace has Iberia like markings, I see some of the speckling that a Libyan would have.

What's your opinion on this girl? Otherwise, she's super heavy, outgoing, and has been in the US since 2020

 

[zovick]

Just picked up this Greek tortoise. So there's an Ibera tortoise. But now that I've got a closer look I'm getting this Libyan feel. She's about 8 in long. Her head has the yellow top and neck similar to how Libyan looks. She does have big spurs but they are yellow and not black. While her carapace has Iberia like markings, I see some of the speckling that a Libyan would have.

What's your opinion on this girl? Otherwise, she's super heavy, outgoing, and has been in the US since 2020

@HermanniChris should be able to give you the proper ID.

 

[VP Exotics]

@HermanniChris should be able to give you the proper ID.

Already reached out to him. Thanks

 

[DoubleD1996!]

May be an ibera looks similar to this one

 

[VP Exotics]

May be an ibera looks similar to this oneView attachment 381737

That's definitely Ibera but her markings look different and have speckling or spots

 

[zovick]

That's definitely Ibera but her markings look different and have speckling or spots

The slight difference in pattern could just be due to individual variation.

 

[VP Exotics]

The slight difference in pattern could just be due to individual variation.

@zovick @HermanniChris , Here are some updated pictures.

 

[VP Exotics]

@zovick @HermanniChris , Here are some updated pictures.

Any updates?

 

[turtlesteve]

You can rarely be 100% certain on a visual ID for Greek tortoises. There are too many subspecies and they look too similar to each other. That being said, I think T.g. cyrenaica is most likely. Bright and high contrast coloration on the head and legs is generally a trait seen in the north African clade, not T.g. ibera.