Hatchling died??? :( (new user)

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if its from what we think it is not zoonetic but it can infect other reptiles possibly. most likely only other tort species. we will know the genome once the necropsy is done if the parasite does exist,
 

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Isn't there any thing that someone can do to shut them down. How many hatchlings so far so you know of toys happened to? Omg I'm so upset reading this. Sounds as bad as a puppymill shipping sick dogs. I really hope the experts can do something about this place
We are gathering information and checking that info to be sure it's factual. No one wants to make any false accusations.
 

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Isn't there any thing that someone can do to shut them down. How many hatchlings so far so you know of toys happened to? Omg I'm so upset reading this. Sounds as bad as a puppymill shipping sick dogs. I really hope the experts can do something about this place
the issue here is underground is only a reseller they dont breed sulcata there. so they buy from a breeder and if those are sick then they are resold.
 

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if someone has one that passed and they had these bumps and you would like to setup a necropsy please message me this will tell you what happened to them. we work with a lab who is doing this for a low price to try to figure this out now. i can set it up and the animal would get sent over night to them. i can give more details in a message it has to be done fairly quickly after they pass though.
 

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@Hywel We will probably never know which condition actually caused the death of your baby. Probably both were contributing factors.

The important thing for you to remember is that for both conditions, you could not save him. Nothing was going to save him. None of this was your fault.

We have excellent breeders on this forum, who start their hatchlings properly and have not been affected by this disease. When you're ready, any one of them would be happy to help you.
 

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did you notice any yellow spots or blister like bumps? sadly underground has been shipping babies with this and honestly this was most likely (almost for sure) not your fault. many of the cases of the sick babies are coming from them more i think then anywhere else. if yours had the same as the other ones we are seeing there would not have been anything you could have done anyway. its sad. but please ask before getting another one so we can send you to someone who has healthy and well started babies that will thrive with proper care. @Tom has awesome babies here. was it the bottom of the shell that was soft or the whole thing? when they are this age the bottom will always be a bit softer.
Both the bottom and the top were soft, felt like pressing down on a hard boiled egg.
 

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@Hywel We will probably never know which condition actually caused the death of your baby. Probably both were contributing factors.

The important thing for you to remember is that for both conditions, you could not save him. Nothing was going to save him. None of this was your fault.

We have excellent breeders on this forum, who start their hatchlings properly and have not been affected by this disease. When you're ready, any one of them would be happy to help you.
Thank you. I'm very saddened but this is reassuring...
If i could be pointed in the direction to anyone who currently has sulcata hatchlings for sale that'd be great too.
 

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Is Underground Reptiles aware of this and continuing to ship these animals with this to people?
 

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im told they have been told about, it but i can not say for sure first hand. someone else who had them die said they called and told them about it but again thats what they told me.
 

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Thank you. I'm very saddened but this is reassuring...
If i could be pointed in the direction to anyone who currently has sulcata hatchlings for sale that'd be great too.
I know Tom will have regular sully hatchlings in March or April. Sully's breed in the winter.

He also has some Sudan sulcatas that are ready to go now I think. You can see them on this link:

 
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your link did not show up so i added it here
 

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your link did not show up so i added it here
Yeah, my bedtime. Thanks! And I added it into my post.
 

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@Hywel I'm so sorry you're having to go through this.

I know we've been asking a lot of questions, but can you give us the date (or approximate date) when you received your baby from Underground Reptiles? One of the things we're trying to tie down is a time frame.

Also, if you haven't already, please notify Underground Reptiles about what happened. Make sure to mention the yellow bumps or spots. If you call them, please make notes. If you email them and have an option to send it "read receipt requested" (more likely if you're using MS Outlook), please do so. Sometimes that option doesn't make it through the system on the other end (and they may still be able to opt out of sending it), but confirmation that they heard or read what you tried to tell them is good documentation to have. I would rather them not be able to plead ignorance or say they weren't aware of any issues.
 

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Thank you. I'm very saddened but this is reassuring...
If i could be pointed in the direction to anyone who currently has sulcata hatchlings for sale that'd be great too.
At this point, I'm going to say anybody looking for a hatchling sulcata needs to buy directly from a breeder AND get positive confirmation from the breeder that the specific babies for sale were hatched and raised onsite.

Any ambiguity, any hedging, any middlemen... Hard pass.
 

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Can y'all go back to reddit or 4chan or whatever shithole you crawled out of just to being
@Hywel I'm so sorry you're having to go through this.

I know we've been asking a lot of questions, but can you give us the date (or approximate date) when you received your baby from Underground Reptiles? One of the things we're trying to tie down is a time frame.

Also, if you haven't already, please notify Underground Reptiles about what happened. Make sure to mention the yellow bumps or spots. If you call them, please make notes. If you email them and have an option to send it "read receipt requested" (more likely if you're using MS Outlook), please do so. Sometimes that option doesn't make it through the system on the other end (and they may still be able to opt out of sending it), but confirmation that they heard or read what you tried to tell them is good documentation to have. I would rather them not be able to plead ignorance or say they weren't aware of any issues.
Received him August 27th.
And yes I'll be sure to do that.
 
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