Home Hingeback tortoise

[pcw_phoenix]

Got myself 2 more new tortoises...2 weeks ago..was told by the seller that it was a 1.1 forest hingeback tortoise..after looking and asking on another forum..found out they were home's hingeback....and after reading the top forum about sexing these guys...i think instead of a 1.1...these guys are actually 2 males...any input would really be helpful..

thanks

J

 

[Az tortoise compound]

Maybe I'm silly, but they look like Erosa's to me.

 

[Kristina]

They are Home's Hingebacks, Kinixys homeana. The shell drops off sharply at the 5th vertebral scute. Serrated Hingebacks (Kinixys erosa) do not have the sharp drop off.

This one -

is female. I need to see the tail of the other one to determine if it is male or not.

What is the white substance on the plastrons of these guys? Looks like it could be mold or fungus...

 

[TKCARDANDCOIN]

That white stuff looks like calcium powder!Looks like it was feeding time.Great looking homes.

 

[Az tortoise compound]

I defer to the hingeback pro's.

 

[Kristina]

I kinda thought that too, after I looked again, lol. Just wanted to make sure

OH, and - as far as the term "Forest Hingebacks." Both Home's and Serrateds are known as Forests, and both in fact dwell in riverine swamp forests in the wild

 

[Az tortoise compound]

So, what is this?

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=50&de=815591

 

[Kristina]

An erosa. The back of the carapace slopes to the ground. There is no knob or 90* angle.

This is a profile of a Home's.

 

[egyptiandan]

Actually that is a Home's Kristina It's just captive raised. If you look close at the 5th vertebral scute, it has a knob at the top of the scute. A K.erosa wouldn't have that.

Danny

 

[Kristina]

Looks more erosa to me than Home's, still. Possible intergrade? They are sympatrics.

 

[Az tortoise compound]

I asked about that tort because it looks like it has a nuchal scute.

 

[Kristina]

Which often is indicative of homeana VS. erosa, BUT, I have a homeana with no nuchal So that is not 100% correct either, and another reason why I feel a lot of these ones that have some characteristics of both may be intergrades.

He is the darker colored one.

 

[pcw_phoenix]

I will try to take photo of the tail of the other...seems the other one is very shy...i soak them everyday...after soaking i see them pooping...and the shy one..always poo....green colored stools..while the active one's stool is like different colors depending on what she eats...

 

[pcw_phoenix]

here are the photos of the two hingeback tails...i think both are either male or female...

 

[Kristina]

Both female.

THIS is a male.

Their tails are almost as big as their leg.

 

[pcw_phoenix]

Both female.

THIS is a male.

Their tails are almost as big as their leg.

oh wow

thanks...i guess i'll be looking for a male for the 2 ladies..

Thanks again