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[RONEY(greek tortoise)]

Hello I'm from Morocco I starting hatching eggs of Greek tortoise(tetsudo graeca marokensiss) in 14 April, its has been 32 days and I see any veins?

This is my second experience in hatching tortoise egg I hop all people help me and I want a coach who have experience in hatching egg tortoise and reptiles

Tanks for all

 

[zovick]

Hello I'm from Morocco I starting hatching eggs of Greek tortoise(tetsudo graeca marokensiss) in 14 April, its has been 32 days and I see any veins?

This is my second experience in hatching tortoise egg I hop all people help me and I want a coach who have experience in hatching egg tortoise and reptiles

Tanks for all

You should be able to see veins at about 21 days if the eggs are being kept at around 30-31C.

 

[RONEY(greek tortoise)]

You should be able to see veins at about 21 days if the eggs are being kept at around 30-31C.

At the beginning, I placed 8 eggs inside a plastic incubator filled with sand and soil. In my country, vermiculite is completely unavailable. I searched for it many times, but I couldn’t find it.
One of the eggs exploded and released a bad smell, and another one cracked. The rest of the eggs are still intact, but I don’t know how to describe what I saw—one egg had something that looked like a red line inside, but it didn’t appear to be branching blood vessels.
I placed a sponge soaked in water inside the container to help maintain humidity. The device gives temperature readings between 29°C and 31.7°C throughout the incubation period. It never went below 29 and never rose above 31.7. As for humidity, the device constantly reads 99%, but I suspect it’s malfunctioning because one day it didn’t give an accurate reading inside the room.
I just want to learn from this experience. I don’t want to keep losing these beautiful eggs. I need someone with enough experience in incubating tortoise eggs—or reptile eggs in general—so I can learn the correct methods of incubation from them.

 

[zovick]

At the beginning, I placed 8 eggs inside a plastic incubator filled with sand and soil. In my country, vermiculite is completely unavailable. I searched for it many times, but I couldn’t find it.
One of the eggs exploded and released a bad smell, and another one cracked. The rest of the eggs are still intact, but I don’t know how to describe what I saw—one egg had something that looked like a red line inside, but it didn’t appear to be branching blood vessels.
I placed a sponge soaked in water inside the container to help maintain humidity. The device gives temperature readings between 29°C and 31.7°C throughout the incubation period. It never went below 29 and never rose above 31.7. As for humidity, the device constantly reads 99%, but I suspect it’s malfunctioning because one day it didn’t give an accurate reading inside the room.
I just want to learn from this experience. I don’t want to keep losing these beautiful eggs. I need someone with enough experience in incubating tortoise eggs—or reptile eggs in general—so I can learn the correct methods of incubation from them.

How old is that photo? The remaining eggs don't look bad in the picture.

Maybe they will hatch for you if you still have them. I would recommend gently sprinkling them very lightly or misting them a tiny bit with a spray bottle with lukewarm water twice a week.

 

[RONEY(greek tortoise)]

How old is that photo? The remaining eggs don't look bad in the picture.

Maybe they will hatch for you if you still have them. I would recommend gently sprinkling them very lightly or misting them a tiny bit with a spray bottle with lukewarm water twice a week.

Is it really possible even though I don't see any veins and it's been more than 30 days?
The photo was pictured in 14 April
Do you need new pictures of the eggs?
Should I attach photos of what's inside the eggs?
Is my incubation method good?
What is the best method you've used that was very successful?
I have a chicken egg incubator could it be useful?

 

[Tom]

How To Incubate Eggs And Start Hatchlings

I put my eggs in a plastic shoe box with a lid on it and put the shoe box in the incubator. You can drill a couple of very small holes around the top of the container, but not on the lid. I use vermiculite as an incubation media. I mix it in a 1 : 1 ratio with water by weight for Sulcatas and...

tortoiseforum.org

 

[zovick]

Is it really possible even though I don't see any veins and it's been more than 30 days?
The photo was pictured in 14 April
Do you need new pictures of the eggs?
Should I attach photos of what's inside the eggs?
Is my incubation method good?
What is the best method you've used that was very successful?
I have a chicken egg incubator could it be useful?

The eggs could possibly still be good if you haven't disturbed them too much since that picture was taken.

A chicken egg incubator could help if it is not one which automatically turns the eggs. However, it is necessary to set it up and turn it on for several days to make sure it maintains the correct temperature before you put your eggs in it.

If you put the eggs in it, you should place a cover LOOSELY over the container in which the eggs are so that they don't dry out from the heat. Then open the incubator and take the cover off the eggs and sprinkle them gently with lukewarm water twice a week.

Do you know that you are not supposed to change the orientation of the eggs once they have begun to incubate? IE, the top of the eggs should be gently marked with an X with a pencil and if you pick up the egg, the X must be kept on the top. Rotating the eggs can kill the embryos.

 

[RONEY(greek tortoise)]

Is it really possible even though I don't see any veins and it's been more than 30 days?
Do you need new pictures of the eggs?
Should I attach photos of what's inside the eggs?
Is my incubation method good?
What is the best method you've used that was very successful?
I have a chicken egg incubator could it be useful?

The eggs could possibly still be good if you haven't disturbed them too much since that picture was taken.

A chicken egg incubator could help if it is not one which automatically turns the eggs. However, it is necessary to set it up and turn it on for several days to make sure it maintains the correct temperature before you put your eggs in it.

If you put the eggs in it, you should place a cover LOOSELY over the container in which the eggs are so that they don't dry out from the heat. Then open the incubator and take the cover off the eggs and sprinkle them gently with lukewarm water twice a week.

Do you know that you are not supposed to change the orientation of the eggs once they have begun to incubate? IE, the top of the eggs should be gently marked with an X with a pencil and if you pick up the egg, the X must be kept on the top. Rotating the eggs can kill the embryos.

Yes, I know about not turning the eggs.
But how will the humidity rise if I put the container inside the incubator?
You want picture of candling?
How long can take Seing veins?
And how long can take this incubation?

 

[RONEY(greek tortoise)]

How To Incubate Eggs And Start Hatchlings

I put my eggs in a plastic shoe box with a lid on it and put the shoe box in the incubator. You can drill a couple of very small holes around the top of the container, but not on the lid. I use vermiculite as an incubation media. I mix it in a 1 : 1 ratio with water by weight for Sulcatas and...

tortoiseforum.org

In the article, you said you place the container inside the incubator.
Is it a reptile incubator?
I don't have one
I only have a 24-egg incubator made for chickens it's a Chinese model.
Can it work?
How can I convert it into a tortoise egg incubator?
Should I not make holes in the lid of plastic?
Does that kill the tortoise eggs?

 

[Tom]

In the article, you said you place the container inside the incubator.
Is it a reptile incubator?
I don't have one
I only have a 24-egg incubator made for chickens it's a Chinese model.
Can it work?
How can I convert it into a tortoise egg incubator?
Should I not make holes in the lid of plastic?
Does that kill the tortoise eggs?

Any incubator will work as long as it holds the correct steady temperature, and it doesn't turn the eggs. Chicken incubators usually work great. You will have to run it and check the temperature for a few days. You will want to cover any holes with electrical tape, and you will want plenty of water in it for humidity. Run it with the water in it, as that will act as a heat sink and hold the temperature more steady.

The shoe boxes that I use have fairly loose fitting lids that allow plenty of air exchange. If using something that is more sealed, like Tupperware for example, then yes, make a few small holes. Only 2 or 3 mm holes and only 3 o4 four of them. Remember that in the wild these eggs would be buried underground and the dirt firmly packed on top of them. Too much air movement is not good for them.

More detail here, its a different species, but there are details that apply to all species:

Sudan Sulcatas (This never gets old...)

My very first clutch of true 100% pure Sudan sulcatas is now hatching. I don't care how many times I see this, it just never gets old. I dig up the eggs carefully place them in my prepared shoe boxes, watch the temperature in the incubator and tend to them for months, and then... When that...

tortoiseforum.org

 

[RONEY(greek tortoise)]

Any incubator will work as long as it holds the correct steady temperature, and it doesn't turn the eggs. Chicken incubators usually work great. You will have to run it and check the temperature for a few days. You will want to cover any holes with electrical tape, and you will want plenty of water in it for humidity. Run it with the water in it, as that will act as a heat sink and hold the temperature more steady.

The shoe boxes that I use have fairly loose fitting lids that allow plenty of air exchange. If using something that is more sealed, like Tupperware for example, then yes, make a few small holes. Only 2 or 3 mm holes and only 3 o4 four of them. Remember that in the wild these eggs would be buried underground and the dirt firmly packed on top of them. Too much air movement is not good for them.

More detail here, its a different species, but there are details that apply to all species:

Sudan Sulcatas (This never gets old...)

My very first clutch of true 100% pure Sudan sulcatas is now hatching. I don't care how many times I see this, it just never gets old. I dig up the eggs carefully place them in my prepared shoe boxes, watch the temperature in the incubator and tend to them for months, and then... When that...

tortoiseforum.org

Finally, man, I finished reading the article — it took me about an hour haha.
Alright, I have a few final questions:
The incubator in the picture is actually the one I have.
I removed the parts that rotate the eggs.
Should I place the egg container inside the incubator and leave it partially open, or are the ventilation holes enough?
And what about water how should I add it? In the article, you used a water container, but in the case of a bird incubator, you can refill it with water. So should I place a separate water container inside, or is filling the incubator’s built-in reservoir enough?
The sensors measure air temperature and humidity, not the substrate.
Are these sensors sufficient, or should I add another one?
I’ve previously tested the incubator with bird eggs it works well, the temperature remains stable (because it has a fan) throughout the incubation. Humidity only needs to be adjusted by adding more water.
This container is it suitable?
Did I do everything correctly?
And finally, would putting the eggs in the incubator now (after having incubated them externally for a while) harm them?

 

[Tom]

Should I place the egg container inside the incubator and leave it partially open, or are the ventilation holes enough?

Definitely close it and cover the ventilation holes with tape or something. Bird eggs need ventilation. There is no ventilation for tortoise eggs buried in the ground. There is humidity and stable temperatures for tortoise eggs buried in the ground. Put water in it in tubs and in whatever other way it allows you too, and run it for a few days BEFORE putting your eggs into it to make sure it is set at the correct temperature and staying stable and consistent.

And what about water how should I add it? In the article, you used a water container, but in the case of a bird incubator, you can refill it with water. So should I place a separate water container inside, or is filling the incubator’s built-in reservoir enough?

Yes add water to it, and also add water tubs if they will fit. Humidity is good for incubating tortoise eggs.

The sensors measure air temperature and humidity, not the substrate.
Are these sensors sufficient, or should I add another one?

Run two or three separate thermometer/hygrometers. They can be off 2 or 3 degrees some times.

I’ve previously tested the incubator with bird eggs it works well, the temperature remains stable (because it has a fan) throughout the incubation. Humidity only needs to be adjusted by adding more water.
This container is it suitable?

Seems like it will be. You got to run it and test it to be sure.

Did I do everything correctly?
And finally, would putting the eggs in the incubator now (after having incubated them externally for a while) harm them?

We can't answer that. What we've seen seems okay.

And finally, would putting the eggs in the incubator now (after having incubated them externally for a while) harm them?

No it won't as long as the temperature and humidity are stable and set correctly.

 

[RONEY(greek tortoise)]

Definitely close it and cover the ventilation holes with tape or something. Bird eggs need ventilation. There is no ventilation for tortoise eggs buried in the ground. There is humidity and stable temperatures for tortoise eggs buried in the ground. Put water in it in tubs and in whatever other way it allows you too, and run it for a few days BEFORE putting your eggs into it to make sure it is set at the correct temperature and staying stable and consistent.


Yes add water to it, and also add water tubs if they will fit. Humidity is good for incubating tortoise eggs.


Run two or three separate thermometer/hygrometers. They can be off 2 or 3 degrees some times.


Seems like it will be. You got to run it and test it to be sure.


We can't answer that. What we've seen seems okay.


No it won't as long as the temperature and humidity are stable and set correctly.

Thanks for all this information ❤

 

[Tom]

Thanks for all this information ❤

You are welcome! Now hatch out those babies and post lots of baby tortoise pictures for everyone!