Manouria emys

[Mikefitz905]

Is there any one working with brown mountain tortoises in Canada?

 

[COmtnLady]

Lets wait until some of the more experienced members are online. Someone should know something about how to put you in touch.

 

[The_Four_Toed_Edward]

I have seen @_The_Beast_ list Canadian tortoise breeders. Don't think any of them worked with manouria though...

 

[_The_Beast_]

None of the breeders in Canada are, to my knowledge, breeding this species and I don't think you'll be able to import it. C&C, Prairie Hill, and Tortoise Passion are the three well established breeders in Canada, each with a different breeding focus (C&C, for example, is mostly leopards, Prairie is one of the only established pancake and kinixys breeders, etc.). You could email them to ask if they know where to find one. Tales & Scales in Toronto sometimes has different torts as well but I don't know who they get them from.

Is there something specific about this species that you're most interested in?

 

[Mikefitz905]

None of the breeders in Canada are, to my knowledge, breeding this species and I don't think you'll be able to import it. C&C, Prairie Hill, and Tortoise Passion are the three well established breeders in Canada, each with a different breeding focus (C&C, for example, is mostly leopards, Prairie is one of the only established pancake and kinixys breeders, etc.). You could email them to ask if they know where to find one. Tales & Scales in Toronto sometimes has different torts as well but I don't know who they get them from.

Is there something specific about this species that you're most interested in?

There tolerance for colder/humid weather. They fact they are prehistoric and one of the earliest species of tortoise. There exaggerated scales. There personality , one of the few reptiles that nest and defend there babies.

Living off of Lake Ontario I have very humid weather. If there’s any species you think would work outside part the year I’d appreciate any suggestions of species that are similar.

 

[Tom]

There tolerance for colder/humid weather. They fact they are prehistoric and one of the earliest species of tortoise. There exaggerated scales. There personality , one of the few reptiles that nest and defend there babies.

Living off of Lake Ontario I have very humid weather. If there’s any species you think would work outside part the year I’d appreciate any suggestions of species that are similar.

I also don't know of anyone in Canada working with the species. Will @Kapidolo Farms is breeding them. He had some beautiful babies at the show this weekend. I don't know if he can get them into Canada or not. Can't hurt to ask.

The Mee come from lower areas than the Mep. The Mep are more cold tolerant, but they also get bigger. Both subspecies still need it relatively warm, so I don't know if that matters in your climate. Both subspecies will be very difficult to house in winter in your climate due to their enormous size and their enormous space requirements. I like them too, but I don't keep them because my climate here just isn't suitable. Too hot in my summers and too dry all the time.

I'd recommend something that stays a more manageable size in your climate. Something that could be outside in summer and indoors the rest of the time. Any of the Testudo would be great. Burmese stars or pancakes would work too.

 

[Mikefitz905]

I also don't know of anyone in Canada working with the species. Will @Kapidolo Farms is breeding them. He had some beautiful babies at the show this weekend. I don't know if he can get them into Canada or not. Can't hurt to ask.

The Mee come from lower areas than the Mep. The Mep are more cold tolerant, but they also get bigger. Both subspecies still need it relatively warm, so I don't know if that matters in your climate. Both subspecies will be very difficult to house in winter in your climate due to their enormous size and their enormous space requirements. I like them too, but I don't keep them because my climate here just isn't suitable. Too hot in my summers and too dry all the time.

I'd recommend something that stays a more manageable size in your climate. Something that could be outside in summer and indoors the rest of the time. Any of the Testudo would be great. Burmese stars or pancakes would work too.

Yeah I’m probably going to adopt a Hermann.

Do you have any experience with keeled box turtles by any chance?

 

[Tom]

Yeah I’m probably going to adopt a Hermann.

Do you have any experience with keeled box turtles by any chance?

I do not. Try Anthony P. at "The Turtle Room" for that. He's on FB. That's who I would call for something like that.

 

[_The_Beast_]

Yeah I’m probably going to adopt a Hermann.

Do you have any experience with keeled box turtles by any chance?

It can be easier to get Russians than Hermanns in Canada Russians are super friendly little dudes with a lot of personality and have similar care needs to Hermanns.

Prairie Hill breeds Hermanns. In Ontario, sometimes the pet store Tales & Scales in Toronto has Hermanns, but I have no idea who they source them from and the mark-up is sometimes an additional $200 CAD over buying direct from a breeder + shipping.

If you want to import, you need an import permit. Restrictions are pretty intense if the tortoise is not already a documented captive bred pet on your care (no wild caught torts allowed).

 

[Mikefitz905]

I do not. Try Anthony P. at "The Turtle Room" for that. He's on FB. That's who I would call for something like that.

Thank you for your help and dedication

It can be easier to get Russians than Hermanns in Canada Russians are super friendly little dudes with a lot of personality and have similar care needs to Hermanns.

Prairie Hill breeds Hermanns. In Ontario, sometimes the pet store Tales & Scales in Toronto has Hermanns, but I have no idea who they source them from and the mark-up is sometimes an additional $200 CAD over buying direct from a breeder + shipping.

If you want to import, you need an import permit. Restrictions are pretty intense if the tortoise is not already a documented captive bred pet on your care (no wild caught torts allowed).

my only issue with Russians are their digging and escape abilities

 

[_The_Beast_]

Thank you for your help and dedication

my only issue with Russians are their digging and escape abilities

Yeah ... My Russian loves to dig and there is no denying it He also loves to climb and makes his opinions very apparent. I just make sure he can't dig out or climb over his outdoor enclosure (indoor is currently closed chamber because he's not an adult yet).

That said, escape prevention is fairly straight forward if you're already aware of the need for it Hermanns and Egyptians (probably others as well) also like to explore and climb, so for outdoor enclosures it will still be important to take protective measures to limit their ability to climb over boundaries. Thankfully this forum is full of creative ideas for both indoor and outdoor enclosures