I just added a male and female ornate painted turtles to my collection. THey already ate today and seem to be adjusting really well. The male is 5" and the female is 7". I am hoping to breed them when they are ready. My only problem is that they are used to eating some beef heart and I can't get that around here. I did get them chicken hearts and they ate them, but I am not sure if that is the best substitute.