Our Modular Russian Tortoise Table(s)

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In the fall of 2024 my wife ( @Wilbur1111 ) and I began caring for a Russian Tortoise we named Boris. He came in a 10-20 gallon aquarium full of sand and rocks with a tiny light on it; it didn't appear he'd had a good life for quite a while. We decided to create a much better environment for him, based off research we'd done largely here on the forum. We live in Wisconsin, USA, which isn't hospitable to an outdoor tortoise enclosure for almost half the year, so the plan was for an indoor enclosure. Because he's an adult, and we wanted to be able to see him easily and often, we opted for an open, table type enclosure. We wanted to give him at least 32sq, as recommended here, but location wise it would have to fit in our living room. To make this happen, we designed the enclosure to be 'L' shaped to fit in with our living room furniture. We made it modular, three tables that connect together, so it's easier to move if needed. Each table is 3' x 3' for a total of 27sq ft, and to get the final 5sq ft we added a second level 'balcony' to one of the tables with a ramp for access. The second level has a slate base and we've been trying to keep most of the food and water there so it's easier to clean. Boris now regularly goes up and down the ramp on his own. Under the 'balcony', we created an enclosed dark space for him, but so far he hasn't taken much interest in it, he does most of his sleeping burrowed into the substrate. The substrate is 4" deep, with the bottom 3" being damp coconut coir, and the top inch being Orchid Bark. We've included a number of tortoise safe plants. We're using Acadia Jungle Dawn LED bars for 'daylighting' over each table (~12 hours a day). One table then also has the basking zone, which includes a 100 watt Exo Terra Intense Basking Spot for infrared (~12 hours a day), an Acadia T5 HO 12% fixture (~ 4 hours a day) and a ZooMed PowerSun 70 watt HID lamp fixture (~4 hours a day). We've adjusted the light heights to keep the basking zone betweein 90-100 degrees. All the lights are on a smart powerstrip with each plug on a custom timer (we can also manually control them through a phone app or Google Assistant). The 'tray' of each table is made of HDPE sealed with silicone caulk, and the frame is mostly wood with some aluminum trim and an 8" tall glass perimeter so we can see him, but he can't run around the house. We created a frame over the top with dowels and wire mesh so we'd have flexibility in where the lights went, and so we could see through the enclosure since it's in the middle of our living room.

Here's the initial 3D AutoCAD rendering, I designed it in AutoCAD to work out all the dimensions and figure out how things went together before I started ordering and cutting up materials. Then after many trips to and deliveries from Menards/Home Depot/Amazon I created all the pieces in my basement workshop over the span of a month (or two):
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Here are some photos of how it turned out, some right after we got it setup, and the last two from today:
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We couldn't have done this without a lot of help from many of you on the forum, either directly through our questions, or indirectly through the hundreds of your posts that we read through for inspiration and information. If you have any questions (I do have photos of the construction phase if that's of any interest), don't hesitate to ask, we'd love to give back and share some of what we've learned, and are still learning!
 

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Right?!!! Holy cow incredible!!🤩would you mind kindly if I’m to add it to this thread at some point? It’s SO good!🙌
 

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Right?!!! Holy cow incredible!!🤩would you mind kindly if I’m to add it to this thread at some point? It’s SO good!🙌
Sure, thanks!
 

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In the fall of 2024 my wife ( @Wilbur1111 ) and I began caring for a Russian Tortoise we named Boris. He came in a 10-20 gallon aquarium full of sand and rocks with a tiny light on it; it didn't appear he'd had a good life for quite a while. We decided to create a much better environment for him, based off research we'd done largely here on the forum. We live in Wisconsin, USA, which isn't hospitable to an outdoor tortoise enclosure for almost half the year, so the plan was for an indoor enclosure. Because he's an adult, and we wanted to be able to see him easily and often, we opted for an open, table type enclosure. We wanted to give him at least 32sq, as recommended here, but location wise it would have to fit in our living room. To make this happen, we designed the enclosure to be 'L' shaped to fit in with our living room furniture. We made it modular, three tables that connect together, so it's easier to move if needed. Each table is 3' x 3' for a total of 27sq ft, and to get the final 5sq ft we added a second level 'balcony' to one of the tables with a ramp for access. The second level has a slate base and we've been trying to keep most of the food and water there so it's easier to clean. Boris now regularly goes up and down the ramp on his own. Under the 'balcony', we created an enclosed dark space for him, but so far he hasn't taken much interest in it, he does most of his sleeping burrowed into the substrate. The substrate is 4" deep, with the bottom 3" being damp coconut coir, and the top inch being Orchid Bark. We've included a number of tortoise safe plants. We're using Acadia Jungle Dawn LED bars for 'daylighting' over each table (~12 hours a day). One table then also has the basking zone, which includes a 100 watt Exo Terra Intense Basking Spot for infrared (~12 hours a day), an Acadia T5 HO 12% fixture (~ 4 hours a day) and a ZooMed PowerSun 70 watt HID lamp fixture (~4 hours a day). We've adjusted the light heights to keep the basking zone betweein 90-100 degrees. All the lights are on a smart powerstrip with each plug on a custom timer (we can also manually control them through a phone app or Google Assistant). The 'tray' of each table is made of HDPE sealed with silicone caulk, and the frame is mostly wood with some aluminum trim and an 8" tall glass perimeter so we can see him, but he can't run around the house. We created a frame over the top with dowels and wire mesh so we'd have flexibility in where the lights went, and so we could see through the enclosure since it's in the middle of our living room.

Here's the initial 3D AutoCAD rendering, I designed it in AutoCAD to work out all the dimensions and figure out how things went together before I started ordering and cutting up materials. Then after many trips to and deliveries from Menards/Home Depot/Amazon I created all the pieces in my basement workshop over the span of a month (or two):
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Here are some photos of how it turned out, some right after we got it setup, and the last two from today:
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We couldn't have done this without a lot of help from many of you on the forum, either directly through our questions, or indirectly through the hundreds of your posts that we read through for inspiration and information. If you have any questions (I do have photos of the construction phase if that's of any interest), don't hesitate to ask, we'd love to give back and share some of what we've learned, and are still learning!
That's astonishing! Of course, I would love to see the construction process and rough bill of materials.
 

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@jpfieber ....
The most amazing part of this is that you gave the tort what it needed, at the expense of living space for yourselves. It NEVER happens like that .... continually the excuse is made "I don't have any other space." Your tort is Lucky to have the 2 of you and Thank You for sharing. Most people cannot see the needs of the tort through the clutter of their home, Great Job.
 

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I would also love to see the construction phase photos! How did you go about working with and sourcing the glass?
I knew from past projects that the glass could be a major expense, so I looked for a cheap source of precut pieces and designed the tables around what I found instead of having custom glass cut to fit my design. I found this glass on Amazon for much cheaper than going custom would have been. I had to order two packages to have enough pieces, but that was still way cheaper ($55 each, ~$110) than going custom.
 

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It's absolutely awesome.
Is the basking light a Spot light?
I understand it should be a Flood Light.
 

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That's astonishing! Of course, I would love to see the construction process and rough bill of materials.
Here's some of the main materials that went into the build:
  • 1 4x8 sheet of 1/2" MDF (@$45ea) for the sides
  • 2 4x8 sheets of 1/4" HDPE (@$87ea) for the table lining (the black and white bottom and sides)
  • A bunch of Aspen boards for the legs (~$150)
  • Some 1x3 pine boards for the lattice that supports the HDPE tray (had laying around)
  • 3/4" Dowels for the frame that supports the lights (~$50)
  • 2 4x8 sheets of 4x4 coated wire mesh for the frame that supports the lights (@$20ea)
  • Some aluminum 3/4" x 3/4" tubing that I cut to make caps for the sides (had laying around)
  • 2 10-packs of 8" x 36" x 3/16" tempered glass (@$55ea)
Here's most of the construction pics I snapped along the way:
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It's absolutely awesome.
Is the basking light a Spot light?
I understand it should be a Flood Light.
It's called 'Spot' but I've seen many recommendations for it, and it seems to be doing the job well. We have ours hanging about 10" above the substrate, and it's providing ~95 degrees on Boris shell when he's under it. Here's some tech info about it:
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@jpfieber ....
The most amazing part of this is that you gave the tort what it needed, at the expense of living space for yourselves.
Our formal living room was converted to a 'Bird Room', where 5 parrots fly around (accordion doors keep them from taking over the entire house). We also have two dogs and two cats, and nearly every surface has a blanket on it so they can be comfortable (my wife drives this effort), so we're already used to being owned by animals...
 

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It's called 'Spot' but I've seen many recommendations for it, and it seems to be doing the job well. We have ours hanging about 10" above the substrate, and it's providing ~95 degrees on Boris shell when he's under it. Here's some tech info about it:
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For this lamp (if you have a 100 watt one), a distance of 15-16" is more appropriate. While 250-300 W/m2 is a recommended power density for lizards (such as bearded dragons), for tortoises this value can be lower (around 180-200 W/m2, as I can guess from Arcadia Floodlight charts and typical installations). For adult tortoises this doesn't play a significant role, but for growing tortoises can notably affect smooth growth. If you have seen a recommended power density for tortoises somewhere, could you share a link?

How do you measure temperature? With a temperature gun? Or "baking" a thermometer probe?
 

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For this lamp (if you have a 100 watt one), a distance of 15-16" is more appropriate. While 250-300 W/m2 is a recommended power density for lizards (such as bearded dragons), for tortoises this value can be lower (around 180-200 W/m2, as I can guess from Arcadia Floodlight charts and typical installations). For adult tortoises this doesn't play a significant role, but for growing tortoises can notably affect smooth growth. If you have seen a recommended power density for tortoises somewhere, could you share a link?

How do you measure temperature? With a temperature gun? Or "baking" a thermometer probe?
We measure temp with a gun (our nephews and nieces love taking the temperature of everything in sight (except eyeballs!) with that thing!). The recommendations I was referring to are for temperature, which was the only goal with that lamp (I shared the chart I found in case others might find it useful, but I don't really understand it's meaning, and prefer the direct temp reading). We had to move it that close to get the temperature in the 90-100 range. Do you think that height could have negative repercussions for other factors besides temperature?
 

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We measure temp with a gun (our nephews and nieces love taking the temperature of everything in sight (except eyeballs!) with that thing!). The recommendations I was referring to are for temperature, which was the only goal with that lamp (I shared the chart I found in case others might find it useful, but I don't really understand it's meaning, and prefer the direct temp reading). We had to move it that close to get the temperature in the 90-100 range. Do you think that height could have negative repercussions for other factors besides temperature?
Surface temperature is a half of the story: when you place a black slate under the lamp it could get much hotter than 95F. In Tom's care sheets you can find another way of measurement: put a thermometer probe and let it sit for 1-2 hours (until temperature stop rising) to get a reading. This is very rough approximation of how warm your tortoise can get under the lamp.

At lower height there are two potential issues:
1. Heated area will be too small for a tortoise to fit in (results in overbasking as it can't warm up the whole body). The worst case scenario are shell burns (happens often with large sulcatas, for example).
2. Too intense heat from the lamp will dry out shell, resulting in pyramiding.

These charts are somewhat similar to candle flame: the center of the flame is bluish - that's where flame temperature is maximal and the edge is yellow/orange and flame temperature is lower. We need to keep tortoise out of "blue flame".
 

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Our formal living room was converted to a 'Bird Room', where 5 parrots fly around (accordion doors keep them from taking over the entire house). We also have two dogs and two cats, and nearly every surface has a blanket on it so they can be comfortable (my wife drives this effort), so we're already used to being owned by animals...
Your wife and You seem like amazing people, happy are the animals in your care I'm sure. It's not luck but hard work by the 2 of you that give these animals a life. So darn cool, to live with instead of to just accommodate minimum needs.
 

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In the fall of 2024 my wife ( @Wilbur1111 ) and I began caring for a Russian Tortoise we named Boris. He came in a 10-20 gallon aquarium full of sand and rocks with a tiny light on it; it didn't appear he'd had a good life for quite a while. We decided to create a much better environment for him, based off research we'd done largely here on the forum. We live in Wisconsin, USA, which isn't hospitable to an outdoor tortoise enclosure for almost half the year, so the plan was for an indoor enclosure. Because he's an adult, and we wanted to be able to see him easily and often, we opted for an open, table type enclosure. We wanted to give him at least 32sq, as recommended here, but location wise it would have to fit in our living room. To make this happen, we designed the enclosure to be 'L' shaped to fit in with our living room furniture. We made it modular, three tables that connect together, so it's easier to move if needed. Each table is 3' x 3' for a total of 27sq ft, and to get the final 5sq ft we added a second level 'balcony' to one of the tables with a ramp for access. The second level has a slate base and we've been trying to keep most of the food and water there so it's easier to clean. Boris now regularly goes up and down the ramp on his own. Under the 'balcony', we created an enclosed dark space for him, but so far he hasn't taken much interest in it, he does most of his sleeping burrowed into the substrate. The substrate is 4" deep, with the bottom 3" being damp coconut coir, and the top inch being Orchid Bark. We've included a number of tortoise safe plants. We're using Acadia Jungle Dawn LED bars for 'daylighting' over each table (~12 hours a day). One table then also has the basking zone, which includes a 100 watt Exo Terra Intense Basking Spot for infrared (~12 hours a day), an Acadia T5 HO 12% fixture (~ 4 hours a day) and a ZooMed PowerSun 70 watt HID lamp fixture (~4 hours a day). We've adjusted the light heights to keep the basking zone betweein 90-100 degrees. All the lights are on a smart powerstrip with each plug on a custom timer (we can also manually control them through a phone app or Google Assistant). The 'tray' of each table is made of HDPE sealed with silicone caulk, and the frame is mostly wood with some aluminum trim and an 8" tall glass perimeter so we can see him, but he can't run around the house. We created a frame over the top with dowels and wire mesh so we'd have flexibility in where the lights went, and so we could see through the enclosure since it's in the middle of our living room.

Here's the initial 3D AutoCAD rendering, I designed it in AutoCAD to work out all the dimensions and figure out how things went together before I started ordering and cutting up materials. Then after many trips to and deliveries from Menards/Home Depot/Amazon I created all the pieces in my basement workshop over the span of a month (or two):
View attachment 388252
Here are some photos of how it turned out, some right after we got it setup, and the last two from today:
View attachment 388253View attachment 388254View attachment 388255View attachment 388256View attachment 388257View attachment 388258
We couldn't have done this without a lot of help from many of you on the forum, either directly through our questions, or indirectly through the hundreds of your posts that we read through for inspiration and information. If you have any questions (I do have photos of the construction phase if that's of any interest), don't hesitate to ask, we'd love to give back and share some of what we've learned, and are still learning!
In the fall of 2024 my wife ( @Wilbur1111 ) and I began caring for a Russian Tortoise we named Boris. He came in a 10-20 gallon aquarium full of sand and rocks with a tiny light on it; it didn't appear he'd had a good life for quite a while. We decided to create a much better environment for him, based off research we'd done largely here on the forum. We live in Wisconsin, USA, which isn't hospitable to an outdoor tortoise enclosure for almost half the year, so the plan was for an indoor enclosure. Because he's an adult, and we wanted to be able to see him easily and often, we opted for an open, table type enclosure. We wanted to give him at least 32sq, as recommended here, but location wise it would have to fit in our living room. To make this happen, we designed the enclosure to be 'L' shaped to fit in with our living room furniture. We made it modular, three tables that connect together, so it's easier to move if needed. Each table is 3' x 3' for a total of 27sq ft, and to get the final 5sq ft we added a second level 'balcony' to one of the tables with a ramp for access. The second level has a slate base and we've been trying to keep most of the food and water there so it's easier to clean. Boris now regularly goes up and down the ramp on his own. Under the 'balcony', we created an enclosed dark space for him, but so far he hasn't taken much interest in it, he does most of his sleeping burrowed into the substrate. The substrate is 4" deep, with the bottom 3" being damp coconut coir, and the top inch being Orchid Bark. We've included a number of tortoise safe plants. We're using Acadia Jungle Dawn LED bars for 'daylighting' over each table (~12 hours a day). One table then also has the basking zone, which includes a 100 watt Exo Terra Intense Basking Spot for infrared (~12 hours a day), an Acadia T5 HO 12% fixture (~ 4 hours a day) and a ZooMed PowerSun 70 watt HID lamp fixture (~4 hours a day). We've adjusted the light heights to keep the basking zone betweein 90-100 degrees. All the lights are on a smart powerstrip with each plug on a custom timer (we can also manually control them through a phone app or Google Assistant). The 'tray' of each table is made of HDPE sealed with silicone caulk, and the frame is mostly wood with some aluminum trim and an 8" tall glass perimeter so we can see him, but he can't run around the house. We created a frame over the top with dowels and wire mesh so we'd have flexibility in where the lights went, and so we could see through the enclosure since it's in the middle of our living room.

Here's the initial 3D AutoCAD rendering, I designed it in AutoCAD to work out all the dimensions and figure out how things went together before I started ordering and cutting up materials. Then after many trips to and deliveries from Menards/Home Depot/Amazon I created all the pieces in my basement workshop over the span of a month (or two):
View attachment 388252
Here are some photos of how it turned out, some right after we got it setup, and the last two from today:
View attachment 388253View attachment 388254View attachment 388255View attachment 388256View attachment 388257View attachment 388258
We couldn't have done this without a lot of help from many of you on the forum, either directly through our questions, or indirectly through the hundreds of your posts that we read through for inspiration and information. If you have any questions (I do have photos of the construction phase if that's of any interest), don't hesitate to ask, we'd love to give back and share some of what we've learned, and are still learning!
Wilbur111 just adding: One thing my huuzzbund isn't mentioning: He didn't even want a tortoise!! It took forever to convince him that we needed to get Boris...
 
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