Still thinking female?

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Hey all, sorry, I’m probably driving y’all crazy, just curious as to if you think that this little one is still a girl, as she/he has matured quite a bit sense last post of her plastron, thoughts?
 

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Hey all, sorry, I’m probably driving y’all crazy, just curious as to if you think that this little one is still a girl, as she/he has matured quite a bit sense last post of her plastron, thoughts?
It is beginning to look male-like to me. The tail seems to be getting longer than I would expect on a female, but it is not truly definitive yet IMHO.

How old is that tortoise and what species is it?
 

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It is beginning to look male-like to me. The tail seems to be getting longer than I would expect on a female, but it is not truly definitive yet IMHO.

How old is that tortoise and what species is it?
She is an Eastern Hermann’s Tortoise and is 3 and a 1/2 years old. She seems to be much more dialed down then my other two males, she like to sleep a lot, and is very lazy, when I have her/him with my male, the male tries to mount him/ her? Is that a normal domince thing in males too?
 

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She is an Eastern Hermann’s Tortoise and is 3 and a 1/2 years old. She seems to be much more dialed down then my other two males, she like to sleep a lot, and is very lazy, when I have her/him with my male, the male tries to mount him/ her? Is that a normal domince thing in males too?
I could be wrong, but it looks more like a male than a female to me at this point.
 

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0F0F3960-502D-4982-907F-E3ECD6321933.png Here a pic from a few months ago
AB0A51D6-DF13-41CE-9D78-5A84445CBE85.jpeg now he/ she looks like this… that’s why I am a bit confused 🤔
 

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It looks like a juvenile. Can't tell the sex yet.

Do they live together? The presence of more dominant animals can suppress the appearance of the secondary sexual characteristics that help us identify the sexes of adults visually. It could also make a more submissive animal hide, become lethargic, and eat less. The low grade stress can also hamper the immune system. Might be time to separate them.
 

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It looks like a juvenile. Can't tell the sex yet.

Do they live together? The presence of more dominant animals can suppress the appearance of the secondary sexual characteristics that help us identify the sexes of adults visually. It could also make a more submissive animal hide, become lethargic, and eat less. The low grade stress can also hamper the immune system. Might be time to separate them.
Thank you! Yes, they are separated;
At what age will I be able to tell the sex? And what is it leaning to more at the moment in your opinion?
 

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It looks like Chris gave his opinion on your tortoises a few months back with a couple of the same pics.

https://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/male-or-female-hermann’s-tortoise-poll-its-a-gender-reveal.190427/
 

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It looks like Chris gave his opinion on your tortoises a few months back with a couple of the same pics.

https://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/male-or-female-hermann’s-tortoise-poll-its-a-gender-reveal.190427/
Yes, he did, but I have noticed the one that he said female looks like it’s maturing so I’m confused now :)
 

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Sometimes I can tell the gender of an animal by seeing their stance. That picture doesn't show that and I did say sometimes. That kind of picture has to be taken at eye to eye level. You flat on the ground with a camera. If you try it though, even if I can't tell you, I promise it will be a favorite picture if you try. I'll try to share my favorite of Sapphire with you. I have to find it first.
 
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