I stopped to see if they had gotten any new russian tortoises in, They had 2 in the enclosure and one was facing away from me and I could tell it was a female from a distance, She turned her head towards me and then lifted her rear end up and pooped, a really nice one, it looked healthy, I ask if I could measure her and she measured right at 5 inches, was heavy and clean looking.I put her back and went out to the car where my wife was waiting for me, told her what they had and I said after we finish with her deliveries we would stop on the way back and get her. So doing it this way it wont be a spur of the moment purchase? (right) She is the smallest one I have but she will grow.