This sulcata was ordered by a friend and shipped to me from ATC the same time I got Alex in May of 2012, She came back to me at the end of Sept that same year. I was raising Alex without any overhead hot lights or CHE's, Toad was not set up this way until I received her in Sept. She is not as smooth as Alex but is out performing her in growth. Their diets are the same, They are both 2 years old this month but Toad is a couple weeks older than Alex. Here is Toad setting on a 13 inch tile this evening. 
