Tucker was poorly

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Hi All.
I posted back in Feb about my horsefield, Tucker, who presented at first with symptoms of an eye infection. On 23rd Jan he stopped eating and couldn't open his eyes.
After getting advice from people here, I addressed any husbandry issues and improved his environment (many thanks for that by the way).
Every piece of advice I received, I took on board. All except for one bit of advice; which was to not go back to the vet I had seen.

I am still a fairly new owner having had tucker for a year. He is only around 2 years old so still rather small and very young. You guys taught me a lot. And I have learned so much more via my vets and the vet nurses at the hospital I take Tucker to. They specialise in exotics, but advice was to not go back to the vets.

There was criticism around him having a couple of assisted feeds to keep his strength up. There was also concerns around the mention of IM antibiotic injections. This really made me cautious and I tried to hold off with interventions in the hope that I could help Tucker without taking veterinary advice. Sadly it only prolonged his suffering.

Eventually, Tucker had a feeding tube fitted in his neck because his weight was dropping and he barely had much to lose. This was also another way of getting antibiotics into him. He had that line in for 4 weeks and was due to have another put in last weds. Luckily, he started eating last weds morning and since then he has been eating and drinking regularly.

It took me until about a month ago to agree for them to take bloods and swabs. He tested negative for viruses but positive for mycoplasma bacteria. At this point, we were wondering if he was ever going to recover or whether he was suffering too much. Not only were his eyes still not right, his skin was becoming sore, he was lethargic and barely moving around.

Since the confirmation of mycoplasma, and starting him on a nebuliser, along with a stronger antibiotic, his progress has been amazing and his weight is now back over 100g. His eyes are returning to normal, he has been eating for 10 days, he is active again and his cheeky little personality is back.

I wanted to come back and provide this update and feedback because I can't help but think about what would have happened had I taken the advice of not going back to the vet. While many people here may have successfully brought tortoises back from the brink, not every case is the same and not every vet is clueless or giving wrong info/advice. Without a doubt I don't think Tucker would be here now had I not persisted and kept taking the vets advice. They have taught me so much like many of you have.

Please bear this in mind when giving advice because I'd hate for someone to be so wary of seeking vet advice and help if it were genuinely needed.

So happy to say Tuckers recovery is going so well now with the right treatment. Onwards and upwards. Thanks to everyone for your support❤️
 

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I'm so happy Tucker is doing well. I'm glad your vet is knowledgeable with tortoise care, some aren't.
 

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I am very glad that Tucker got the proper treatment from a good vet and has recovered so well! It's still a fact that most vets do not have knowledge and experience of tortoises.
 

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Very glad that tucker is doing much better. You are a rare case. Most tortoises we see on here being treated by a vet, it's not good and usually only turns out good after taking the advice from this forum and not the vet
Keep in mind, we can only go by what we see in a picture and the info the owner tells us. Usually we have to ask for the care info a few times before we get all the info we need. We don't live with the animal and don't see the daily. The owner does have to be aware of what's going on, on a daily basis and be cautious when there is a vet warning, to ask questions and know what should and shouldn't be given.
Luckily you found a vet that seems to know how to treat tortoises, that's not the norm.
 

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Hello! Thank you for coming back with an update. I'm happy that this story has a good ending!

Can you post what vet you were visiting? This will be very helpful for existing and new UK members.
 

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Hello! Thank you for coming back with an update. I'm happy that this story has a good ending!

Can you post what vet you were visiting? This will be very helpful for existing and new UK members.
Yeah, it's Rutland House Referrals in St Helens, Merseyside (UK). They have an exotics department. Because I've been back and forth for treatments and check ups with him, I've seen all 3 vets and many of the exotics nurses too... they are all really knowledgeable and experienced; some owning their own exotics so also having the personal experience too. I am lucky this vet surgery is so close and my dogs are registered with one of their partner surgeries too. On the whole, the company in general has a good reputation.

I was also lucky to have found them the first time I needed an exotics vet. I'd hate to have had a bad experience and have to have learned that way that not all vets know what they are doing. I appreciate that many are not that good.

Thanks everyone for your replies. I hope my post didn't offend anyone; I just had to share that experience. May be worth compiling a list of veterinary surgeries that have good reputations in exotics?

Xx
 

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You mentioned switching to a stronger antibiotic. What did you use first, and what was the second one that vets had you switch to?
 

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Yeah, it's Rutland House Referrals in St Helens, Merseyside (UK). They have an exotics department. Because I've been back and forth for treatments and check ups with him, I've seen all 3 vets and many of the exotics nurses too... they are all really knowledgeable and experienced; some owning their own exotics so also having the personal experience too. I am lucky this vet surgery is so close and my dogs are registered with one of their partner surgeries too. On the whole, the company in general has a good reputation.

I was also lucky to have found them the first time I needed an exotics vet. I'd hate to have had a bad experience and have to have learned that way that not all vets know what they are doing. I appreciate that many are not that good.

Thanks everyone for your replies. I hope my post didn't offend anyone; I just had to share that experience. May be worth compiling a list of veterinary surgeries that have good reputations in exotics?

Xx
No, your post is not offending. For me it's important to know, when vet advisory is required. And if I can recommend experienced vet in some area - that's even better. I wish there were some vets on this forum...

Actually, there is a list of vets on this forum in a separate subsection, divided by regions. I hope your reference will be added there. And for the UK there is another one on The Tortoise Table.

Also, I second nd133's question about treatment scheme. Mycoplasmosis is fairly common and hard to treat. And if there were some adjustments in Tucker's care and diet proposed by vets - it would be nice to know that too.
 

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You mentioned switching to a stronger antibiotic. What did you use first, and what was the second one that vets had you switch
Marbocyl was the first IM antibiotic and it barely made much difference.

The second/current IM antibiotic was started before the results came back but definitely seemed to help; that's called ceftazidime. He has one injection left and then probably won't need anymore.

And then he's having Gentamicin in the nebuliser which has really helped clear his nostrils and helped his eyes massively.

He is doing amazing, his appetite is brilliant; just like it was before he became poorly. After 14 weeks of not eating, he just started again after being on the ceftazidime for about 2 weeks🥰
 

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Marbocyl was the first IM antibiotic and it barely made much difference.

The second/current IM antibiotic was started before the results came back but definitely seemed to help; that's called ceftazidime. He has one injection left and then probably won't need anymore.

And then he's having Gentamicin in the nebuliser which has really helped clear his nostrils and helped his eyes massively.

He is doing amazing, his appetite is brilliant; just like it was before he became poorly. After 14 weeks of not eating, he just started again after being on the ceftazidime for about 2 weeks🥰
Thank you!
That's really interesting... I thought ceftazidime is not effective against mycoplasma.

Nevertheless, I'm happy for Tucker!
 

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Thank you!
That's really interesting... I thought ceftazidime is not effective against mycoplasma.

Nevertheless, I'm happy for Tucker!
Yeah, it wasn't prescribed for the mycoplasma but it may be that he had other bacterial infection with him having such a poor immune system. Poor boy really has been through it this year but so glad we are towards the latter end of things now👏❤️
 
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