Does anyone have the Large waterland tub? I'd love to hear of anyone out there who uses them, as well as species being raised in them. Also would like to see examples of filter setups.
AustinASU said:The large would be inside, running on a wet dry sump filter on a light weight steel stand. Haha yeah a drain hole for outside use would be a must!!! Couldn't you make a false bottom on the land part so that you use less substrate.
Anthony P said:AustinASU said:The large would be inside, running on a wet dry sump filter on a light weight steel stand. Haha yeah a drain hole for outside use would be a must!!! Couldn't you make a false bottom on the land part so that you use less substrate.
Yes I actually have. It's not something I look forward to doing for a "all in one" habitat that costs me 550 bucks to buy and ship. If I have to build something for the nesting area, why not just buy a bigger stock tank for cheap and build the nest box itself? Thats the realization I have reached recently. WaterLands are as good as it gets, obviously, but I like to find creative ways to make more cost effective options work well.
theTurtleRoom said:Anthony P said:AustinASU said:The large would be inside, running on a wet dry sump filter on a light weight steel stand. Haha yeah a drain hole for outside use would be a must!!! Couldn't you make a false bottom on the land part so that you use less substrate.
Yes I actually have. It's not something I look forward to doing for a "all in one" habitat that costs me 550 bucks to buy and ship. If I have to build something for the nesting area, why not just buy a bigger stock tank for cheap and build the nest box itself? Thats the realization I have reached recently. WaterLands are as good as it gets, obviously, but I like to find creative ways to make more cost effective options work well.
An important observation. Waterlands are great, but not a "perfect" product. As someone with a lot of experience using them (and selling them), there are definitely things I would do differently if I were designing them. There are depth issues with both land and water setups for assorted reasons.
For what its worth, folks, I recommend setting up a drain for inside, as well, either plumbing it directly into the house plumbing, or enabling a hose hookup for draining to a floor drain or sump. Emptying that much water by any other method can be quite time consuming - even with the Medium water tubs that only hold 65 gallons.
AustinASU said:How are you doing the filtering outside?
Gerards said:I use a lot of waterlands, both land and water, in all sizes. There are definitely some snags with something's, but depending on your situation, you can modify for most of them. I know I cheat by having them outside year round, so mine don't apply to have to keep them inside and filtered. If you need to have less water, that's a easy one to fix. Just drill a drain hole, put a bulk head and overfill. Then just fill the tub with sand until you get the depth you need. Again, I don't know how that effects having to keep them inside and filtered.
theTurtleRoom said:AustinASU said:How are you doing the filtering outside?
Most don't. They use them more like ponds outside. I can't speak for Gerard, but most install an overflow in case of rain. Well, because of that, when it rains, it aerates the water, plus replaces water in the tank and freshens it up.
If it doesn't rain for a while? Pull the drain and just put in fresh water. Water changes are super easy with these setups outside, especially if a drain is installed.
Gerards said:I use a lot of waterlands, both land and water, in all sizes. There are definitely some snags with something's, but depending on your situation, you can modify for most of them. I know I cheat by having them outside year round, so mine don't apply to have to keep them inside and filtered. If you need to have less water, that's a easy one to fix. Just drill a drain hole, put a bulk head and overfill. Then just fill the tub with sand until you get the depth you need. Again, I don't know how that effects having to keep them inside and filtered.
Gerard - Joshua and I regularly keep sand in his. We just use canister filters like we would on any other setup with sand substrate!
AustinASU said:On the overflow for the bottom, couldn't you just add a water spicket and drain water out through a water house?
AustinASU said:Do you have a water well or something?
Gerards said:AustinASU said:On the overflow for the bottom, couldn't you just add a water spicket and drain water out through a water house?
Yes, you could. I use 2" bulk heads, it makes completely draining a lot easier and makes it harder for 1 leaf to block the hole and over fill the enclosure. We are putting 12 new 600 gallon polys in now with 3" bulk heads, all drained to a 24" diameter, 20' deep drain. I'm very excited to finish these. 3 down, 9 to go.