Western or eastern hermann?

[Natalie44]

Getting this little guy or gal on the 30th! 😍 are they a western or eastern hermann?

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Getting this little guy or gal on the 30th! 😍 are they a western or eastern hermann?

I’d personally say eastern but wait for a few others to confirm for you😊
What a cutie!! Can you believe they’re sat there now with no idea what a wonderful new mom they have waiting for them! One that has put in so much work to get things perfect🥰I’m so excited for the both of you and can’t wait to follow your journey❤️

 

[Natalie44]

I’d personally say eastern but wait for a few others to confirm for you😊
What a cutie!! Can you believe they’re sat there now with no idea what a wonderful new mom they have waiting for them! One that has put in so much work to get things perfect🥰I’m so excited for the both of you and can’t wait to follow your journey❤️

The breeder just messaged me and said it’s a western aww you’re so sweet thank you! Will post more pics when they arrive ❤️

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

The breeder just messaged me and said it’s a western aww you’re so sweet thank you! Will post more pics when they arrive ❤️

Ah cool! I’ll admit identifying subspecies isn’t my strong point lol, I hear the westerns grow up with such beautiful contrasting colours!❤️

 

[zovick]

Getting this little guy or gal on the 30th! 😍 are they a western or eastern hermann?

This tortoise looks quite nice, but is already beginning to show signs of pyramiding and you will need to be sure to raise it in a closed chamber with high humidity to prevent it from continuing.

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

This tortoise looks quite nice, but is already beginning to show signs of pyramiding and you will need to be sure to raise it in a closed chamber with high humidity to prevent it from continuing.

We’ve all advised on how to get get everything set up, she has a greenhouse top set up at the ready🥰

 

[Natalie44]

This tortoise looks quite nice, but is already beginning to show signs of pyramiding and you will need to be sure to raise it in a closed chamber with high humidity to prevent it from continuing.

Good thing I’m adopting the little guy! I’ve already got a greenhouse cover all set and humidity at the moment is about 71% on the cooler side and about 50% at the basking area.

 

[Natalie44]

Good thing I’m adopting the little guy! I’ve already got a greenhouse cover all set and humidity at the moment is about 71% on the cooler side and about 50% at the basking area.

And the temps atm are 23 on the cool end and 36 on the basking side.

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Good thing I’m adopting the little guy! I’ve already got a greenhouse cover all set and humidity at the moment is about 71% on the cooler side and about 50% at the basking area.

I’d try and get it up a bit more if you can, it’s probably because you’ve had the substrate laid for a few days, is it nice and damp underneath? I’d give another pour of lukewarm water into the corners of the warm end, if it’s still on the lower side give the substrate a mix all through and do another light pour if needed both ends🙂

And the temps atm are 23 on the cool end and 36 on the basking side.

Temps are sounding pretty good though👍
Is that 36 reading under your basking bulb?🙂

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Try aim for 75-80% for both sides, don’t worry if the warmer side seems to drop quicker, that’ll be normal🙂

 

[HermanniChris]

The tortoise is an eastern, certainly not a western.
Westerns are much different.
If I were you I’d ask for photos of the adults because it seems a little off that the breeder doesn’t know the correct subspecies. Just trying to help.

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

The tortoise is an eastern, certainly not a western.
Westerns are much different.
If I were you I’d ask for photos of the adults because it seems a little off that the breeder doesn’t know the correct subspecies. Just trying to help.

I thought eastern too, photos of the adults would definitely be handy!

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

For some reference!

 

[Natalie44]

I’d try and get it up a bit more if you can, it’s probably because you’ve had the substrate laid for a few days, is it nice and damp underneath? I’d give another pour of lukewarm water into the corners of the warm end, if it’s still on the lower side give the substrate a mix all through and do another light pour if needed both ends🙂

Temps are sounding pretty good though👍
Is that 36 reading under your basking bulb?🙂

Ah good yea, 36 under basking bulb 👍

 

[Natalie44]

The tortoise is an eastern, certainly not a western.
Westerns are much different.
If I were you I’d ask for photos of the adults because it seems a little off that the breeder doesn’t know the correct subspecies. Just trying to help.

I totally appreciate the help these are the other Hermanns he has

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

I totally appreciate the help these are the other Hermanns he has

They do look kind of western in the second photo tbf but I’ll admit I’m still struggling to say for sure either way😂 @Tom thoughts?

 

[Raquel1978]

They do look kind of western in the second photo tbf but I’ll admit I’m still struggling to say for sure either way😂 @Tom thoughts?

It can be slightly confusing 😂.. My little one who is 8 months old I presume to be eastern due to markings but colour wise she's a lot brighter than all the eastern hatchings I've seen.. So I'm still none the wiser 🤔😂..

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

It can be slightly confusing 😂.. My little one who is 8 months old I presume to be eastern due to markings but colour wise she's a lot brighter than all the eastern hatchings I've seen.. So I'm still none the wiser 🤔😂..

Yeah yours does look quite bright but I see what you mean about the markings.. I suppose it ultimately doesn’t matter but it’s still interesting to know!🙂

 

[Raquel1978]

For some reference!

Actually looking at this I think mine is western 😂..

 

[Littleredfootbigredheart]

Actually looking at this I think mine is western 😂..

I’d say so too looking at the photos! Beautiful colouring❤️pattern is slightly throwing a bit but let’s go with it😂