Desperately need opinions about sex and behavior

[Tidgy's Dad]

Poor things, they look most bemused!
I have now changed my vote to female.
Am prepared to bet a bottle of Grandpa Turtles Bud on it.

 

[wellington]

Poor things, they look most bemused!
I have now changed my vote to female.
Am prepared to bet a bottle of Grandpa Turtles Bud on it.

See, I am still so baffled. I do so hope you are right though. I'm thinking she/he is still trying to figure it out itself. Maybe I have the first tortoise hermaphidite.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

See, I am still so baffled. I do so hope you are right though. I'm thinking she/he is still trying to figure it out itself. Maybe I have the first tortoise hermaphidite.

Actually, i have heard that hermaphrodite torts do exist.

 

[johnsonnboswell]

It's aggression, pure and simple. You should figure out gender for the future. whatever it is, this bully jostling for dominance should not be part of your group. Even under supervision. It stresses all of them.

 

[wellington]

It's aggression, pure and simple. You should figure out gender for the future. whatever it is, this bully jostling for dominance should not be part of your group. Even under supervision. It stresses all of them.

You are not getting it. They are just fine! I know all about aggression. They are not stressed. They are very far from stressed.

 

[wellington]

Okay a couple more pics of just the one in question. My finger is at the end of her tail. I could get her to let me pull it out so you could see it

 

[Neal]

$5,000 on female.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

$5,000 on female.

yaaayyy!!!!!!!
I win a bottle of @Grandpa Turtle 144 Budweiser.

 

[wellington]

Woohoo I'm liking these big time bets.

 

[Elohi]

I was just about to say that I changed my vote to female. I see in it the only one hahaha. So you have a bossy, aggressive girl. Interesting. Maybe she is maturing and isn't sure what to do with her hormonal surges?

 

[Elohi]

The gap between anal scutes and supracaudal is big compared to your male, and similar to your female.
Also, LMAO at the look on your males face!!

 

[wellington]

I was just about to say that I changed my vote to female. I see in it the only one hahaha. So you have a bossy, aggressive girl. Interesting. Maybe she is maturing and isn't sure what to do with her hormonal surges?

I was thinking maybe she was jealous cuz my male really showed little interest in her but loves the other female when they were all together LOL

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

The gap between anal scutes and supracaudal is big compared to your male, and similar to your female.
Also, LMAO at the look on your males face!!

Maybe the male's as confused as we are.

 

[wellington]

The gap between anal scutes and supracaudal is big compared to your male, and similar to your female.
Also, LMAO at the look on your males face!!

Oh, I see that now. I wasn't even looking at the gap. I am thrilled for her to be a her. We have been calling her Lillie/Billy until we got it figured out LOL
Yes, my Tatum wanted to make sure his handsome face was in the pic, the ham.

 

[Neal]

I guess I should warn you that I suck at poker and recently lost some money in Vegas, so I could be wrong, but all signs point to female from what I see.

Female aggression happens and seems to be more common during egg laying season. Tyler was at my house a couple years ago. We were kneeling down looking at some younger tortoises I had and the dame of your female came up from behind and started ramming him.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I guess I should warn you that I suck at poker and recently lost some money in Vegas, so I could be wrong, but all signs point to female from what I see.

Female aggression happens and seems to be more common during egg laying season. Tyler was at my house a couple years ago. We were kneeling down looking at some younger tortoises I had and the dame of your female came up from behind and started ramming him.

So, if I say it's definitely a male, you'll send me $5,000 ?

 

[Neal]

If the tortoise ends up flashing, I will send you 5,000 of a currency of my choosing.

 

[wellington]

I guess I should warn you that I suck at poker and recently lost some money in Vegas, so I could be wrong, but all signs point to female from what I see.

Female aggression happens and seems to be more common during egg laying season. Tyler was at my house a couple years ago. We were kneeling down looking at some younger tortoises I had and the dame of your female came up from behind and started ramming him.

LOL. Well let's hope this time your on the money.

So, with the aggression already displayed, do you think they will ever be able to live together? they have a huge L shaped enclosure outside. The inside is getting a make over soon, because they are being house seperately now, so I'm needing to make each one a bigger space for winter. Otherwise they could share a huge U shaped inside enclosure, if they could ever live together again.

 

[wellington]

If the tortoise ends up flashing, I will send you 5,000 of a currency of my choosing.

Wait, your going to give me a chance to decline right? I have enough tortoise poop currency

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

LOL. Well let's hope this time your on the money.

So, with the aggression already displayed, do you think they will ever be able to live together? they have a huge L shaped enclosure outside. The inside is getting a make over soon, because they are being house seperately now, so I'm needing to make each one a bigger space for winter. Otherwise they could share a huge U shaped inside enclosure, if they could ever live together again.

Sorry, but for what it's worth, I'd say no.