Gender help please

[paschallraschalls]

Hello everyone I have 4 adult boxies (and various other turts and torts) I thought I knew genders, but now I'm not so sure. I'd love your input!

I have posted LOTS of pics in this picasa web album.
https://picasaweb.google.com/103876600473965178172/TurtlesAndTortoises?authkey=Gv1sRgCICeqNez4t7G9AE

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[TheTortoiseWhisperer]

I personally don't have a clue but YOUR BABIES ARE GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!

 

[turtleluv88]

Very cute! From what I can tell the first 3 look like males and the 4th a female, but I could be wrong. Let's see what others think.

 

[yagyujubei]

#1-female
#2-female
#3-male
#4-female

 

[paschallraschalls]

Thanks, both of you! They are so much fun! I love how different each of them is!

I don't know which is a better indicator of gender, tail or plastron, does any one know?

By plastron, I would say the 1st is the only female
By tail, I would think maybe 1 and 2 female and 3 male as for 4-I'm just not sure, haha.

ETA: oops, I mixed 3 and 4 up earlier

 

[mainey34]

Looks like first 3 are male and #4 is female.

 

[paschallraschalls]

I moved the pics, so the pics of just the tails are first, maybe less to wade through that way

 

[Yvonne G]

I agree with Dennis.

 

[Neal]

#1-female
#2-female
#3-male
#4-female

Agreed...although #2 doesn't seem quite right....I'll have to say female unless you can show a picture with the tail fully extended.

You also have a nice looking male leopard there!

 

[paschallraschalls]

Thanks Yvonne and Neal! I had just never heard of females having concave plastrons before, didn't even know it was possible.

 

[Neal]

Thanks Yvonne and Neal! I had just never heard of females having concave plastrons before, didn't even know it was possible.

I've seen that a lot with female easterns.

 

[paschallraschalls]

Wow, you learn something new every day Thanks!