Leop-cata

[Tortuga_terrestre]

I am all for purity in all animal species, but I think it would be interesting to see an adult Leop-cata. Check out this Craiglist's Ad

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/for/2109912076.html

 

[spikethebest]

I personally know the seller of these, please buyer beware...

 

[zzzdanz]

I've seen that before.I'm not a big fan of mixing the breeds

 

[dmmj]

I personally know the seller of these, please buyer beware...

Buyer beware as in as in these are fakes?

 

[moswen]

i'm not going to lie and i've said this before, i really don't think that a mixed breed is a RARE tortoise, i think it's a screw up and people trying to make more money off the 30 sulcatas a clutch that they get 3 times a year....

but i really think these would be so PRETTY!!!

 

[Shelly]

Isn't this one of the signs of the impending apocalypse?

 

[Yvonne G]

Isn't this one of the signs of the impending apocalypse?

Hm-m-m...let's see...wars? rumors of wars? interbred tortoises?

Yes, I do believe you are correct!

 

[kbaker]

I only know of one person that had hybrids and they were with G.p.p. The pictures imply that they are part G.p.b.

I don't believe this ad is...honest!!

 

[spikethebest]

I personally know the seller of these, please buyer beware...

Buyer beware as in as in these are fakes?

Not 100% sure. I have seen these type of torts before, but what I was referring too was the practices and methods of this seller.

He keeps all his turtles and tortoises in one common area. They all eat, sleep, and poop in the same area (hence the reason why the leopard was able to mate his female).

Just be careful, I have been burned a few times by this person.

 

[DeanS]

babcockii and pardalis breeding would not constitute a hybrid...same species, different ssp...no biggie, but what this guy is doing SUCKS!

 

[Az tortoise compound]

babcockii and pardalis breeding would not constitute a hybrid...same species, different ssp...no biggie, but what this guy is doing SUCKS!

A big +1 in my opinion. I sure hope the offspring are mules!

 

[egyptiandan]

They look like hybrids to me.

Hard to say Mick, but the 2 species aren't very closely related so might not be fertile.

Danny

 

[APBT_Fanatic]

This is who I got my first Sulcata from (hatchling, named Sherman).

Cory is right, he mixes species and had Boxies out with the mom and dad Sullies, etc. I think he had adult CDT and Sullies, etc. together too. At the time, I was not informed this was not advised.

While some of the care info he gave me was correct, most was not... and as you saw when I first joined these forums, there were some vital things I needed to correct (diet, substrate, etc.).

Additionally, Sherman's shell was deformed (lopesided) when I got him. I do not think it still is, but while he was smaller it was defiantely obvious.

He was selling Leopards and Sullie hacthings when I got Sherman from him.-- I actually went to get a Leopard, but came home with a Sullie. He presents himself as a "rescuer", as he was apparently part of a CTTC Chapter, but he breeds Sullies and isn't the most informative to their buyers, so I would not call him a rescuer.

Before I found this forum, I did email him a few questions in regards to two other hatchlings I aquired (CDTs- Echo and Euclid) and he was helpful in telling me I was correct in the fact that they were CDT hatchlings (their previous owner didn't know what they were).

 

[Tom]

If its legit, its an abomination and this guy should be shunned. Not only for hybridizing two species, but for **** poor husbandry and housing technique.

 

[DeanS]

They look like hybrids to me.

Hard to say Mick, but the 2 species aren't very closely related so might not be fertile.

Danny

Danny...I was referring to pardalis and babcockii offspring not being hybrids...either leopard ssp and sulcata breeding would definitely constitute a hybrid brood...that's just not right!

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If its legit, its an abomination and this guy should be shunned. Not only for hybridizing two species, but for **** poor husbandry and housing technique.

ABSOLUTELY!

 

[gummybearpoop]

Hybrids happen....when snake breeders start breeding tortoises.

 

[moswen]

i definately agree with tom about the housing different species together, sulcatas are big enough to crush a box turtle if one took up the desire to do so.

 

[John]

rest assured if theres a dollar too be made it will happen.its been done with pythons,the fact that its hard too get fertile clutches just increases value