Mazuri or NutraZu?

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Mazuri is not available in the UK as "Mazuri" because that name is only for the U.S. You can buy the exact same product in the UK, sold as NutraZu Tortoise Diet:


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That is a repackaged portion. It does look like the right stuff but it doesn't have the NutraZu product number on it. But I would bet that is exactly what you are looking for.

YES - the NutraZu 50J3 is EXACTLY the same product and formula as the Mazuri 5M21. In fact, it you look up Nutrazu's website and look for the tortoise diet - you get this product discription even still using the 5m21 formula code.

Purina Mills is the parent company and owns the trademarks for Mazuri in N America and Nutrazu in Europe.

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Where is the cheapest place to buy 25-pound bags of Mazuri?
If you have a feed store near you that sells other mazuri or Purina products, ask them if they can order the tortoise food for you. I buy mine up in Michigan at a feed store and pay 38.00 and some change for the largest bag of the regular mazuri and the LS is 58.00 and change. I use the LS to supplement the regular.
 

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Where is the cheapest place to buy 25-pound bags of Mazuri?
Search animal tack and feed stores in rural areas.
There's a big horse and livestock community near me. There's a store there that sells feed and hay, etc. And always have the big bags of 5M21 there.
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Where is the cheapest place to buy 25-pound bags of Mazuri?
Chewy.com drops a bag of LS on my front porch every month. I get the LS from them because my feed store takes a month or two to get it in for some reason. My same feed store seems to be able to get the 5M21 with no problem and they keep a bag or two in stock since we have so many tortoise keepers in the area buying it all the time. I have them deliver it when they bring the hay and other animal feed to my ranch.
 

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Chewy.com drops a bag of LS on my front porch every month. I get the LS from them because my feed store takes a month or two to get it in for some reason. My same feed store seems to be able to get the 5M21 with no problem and they keep a bag or two in stock since we have so many tortoise keepers in the area buying it all the time. I have them deliver it when they bring the hay and other animal feed to my ranch.
My current tortoise situation doesn't require a lot of Mazuri.
Luckily, it freezes great.
 

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My current tortoise situation doesn't require a lot of Mazuri.
Luckily, it freezes great.
Normally it starts raining here in November or December. When the rains come, the weeds and wild grasses all sprout and the world turns green. There is so much growing in my tortoise pens that I don't have to "feed" them for 3-4 months of every year. Not this year. It hasn't rained at all since last March or April. I can't remember the last time water fell out of the sky here. It's been almost a year at this point.

My point: I've been feeding out some bags of Mazuri this year, and I've mastered the art of mixing chopped soaked hay, soaked horse hay pellets, and dehydrated leaves from Will @Kapidolo Farms with cases of grocery store greens. No rain = no weeds. We've had some wind the last couple of weeks, but winter seems to be skipping us this year. Temps have been sunny and in the 70s since November. Good tortoise weather, but no tortoise weeds to eat.
 

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Normally it starts raining here in November or December. When the rains come, the weeds and wild grasses all sprout and the world turns green. There is so much growing in my tortoise pens that I don't have to "feed" them for 3-4 months of every year. Not this year. It hasn't rained at all since last March or April. I can't remember the last time water fell out of the sky here. It's been almost a year at this point.

My point: I've been feeding out some bags of Mazuri this year, and I've mastered the art of mixing chopped soaked hay, soaked horse hay pellets, and dehydrated leaves from Will @Kapidolo Farms with cases of grocery store greens. No rain = no weeds. We've had some wind the last couple of weeks, but winter seems to be skipping us this year. Temps have been sunny and in the 70s since November. Good tortoise weather, but no tortoise weeds to eat.
What kind of horse hay pellets are you feeding and to which torts?
I was just looking at Tractor Supply that has Timothy or Orchard grass pellets in huge 40+ lb bags for under $30. I was thinking the normal Mazuri 5M21 has too much protein for Sulcatas and a ton of extra stuff while these horse pellets only contain grass.
 

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Mazuri is not available in the UK as "Mazuri" because that name is only for the U.S. You can buy the exact same product in the UK, sold as NutraZu Tortoise Diet:


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That is a repackaged portion. It does look like the right stuff but it doesn't have the NutraZu product number on it. But I would bet that is exactly what you are looking for.

YES - the NutraZu 50J3 is EXACTLY the same product and formula as the Mazuri 5M21. In fact, it you look up Nutrazu's website and look for the tortoise diet - you get this product discription even still using the 5m21 formula code.

Purina Mills is the parent company and owns the trademarks for Mazuri in N America and Nutrazu in Europe.

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You probably have few options where you live, which is unfortunate. But the ingredients list seems to be filled with stuff that isn’t really found in the wild diet and seems to a highly processed food item. Where are all of the ingredients related to living plants???
 

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What kind of horse hay pellets are you feeding and to which torts?
I was just looking at Tractor Supply that has Timothy or Orchard grass pellets in huge 40+ lb bags for under $30. I was thinking the normal Mazuri 5M21 has too much protein for Sulcatas and a ton of extra stuff while these horse pellets only contain grass.
I prefer the orchard grass hay pellets or the Bermuda pellets. I've used the Timothy too. All work. I soak these and mix them in with lots of other stuff like chopped lettuce, soaked and chopped hay, dried leaves like moringa, weeds, flowers, mulberry or grape leaves, etc... Whatever I can find at any given time of year. The soaked pellets add fiber and bulk to whatever else I can find. I feed this mixture to all grass eating species. For non grass eaters like Radiata, I still use all the same stuff, I just put less or no chopped and soaked hay. The soaked pellets are good for adding fiber to the diet of any tortoise being fed grocery store greens.

My tortoises get the above mixture about twice a week. Then they get two days of mulberry leaves, two days of cactus pads, and a day of Mazuri. This changes seasonally depending on what is available. In the winter here, they get buckets of weeds and grasses that pop up everywhere.

Mazuri 5M21 does not have too much protein for sulcatas. It works great for them and delivers excellent results in the long and short term. Plus, they usually love it. It is certainly not "necessary" and you can skip it if you want to, but it's a good food for occasional use and a good way to ensure they are getting all their nutrition. In the wild, sulcatas are opportunistic carrion eaters. Now I'm advocating feeding them meat, but lots of people have, they do it themselves in the wild, and there are no ill effects. So a little 12-15% protein from Mazuri now and then is not a bad thing. They need some protein in their diet. We just usually recommend plant proteins like from legumes. Clover, broadleaf plantain, and I even offer whole greens beans now and then.
 

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You probably have few options where you live, which is unfortunate. But the ingredients list seems to be filled with stuff that isn’t really found in the wild diet and seems to a highly processed food item. Where are all of the ingredients related to living plants???
Mark has pastures of other options. Literally.

The ingredients list on a Mazuri bag impresses no one, but the results from feeding it impress everyone who does it. It's a good supplemental food. Those items you mention are simply a delivery vehicle for the good stuff they need, much like the romaine lettuce I use in my buckets mixes. The romaine is mixed in and smeared with all that other good stuff. They love the romaine and eat it right up, but they are getting all the fiber, calcium, and nutrition from all the stuff mixed in.
 
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